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Jac saying on TV that Dina hasn’t acknowledged her son shouldn’t have been mentioned. I’m sure Jac’s loose mouth is a big part of the families division.
OMG…she said that…she’s another meho…WOW.
She’s like PT – she wants a parade, a banner, a party with everyone holding her up telling her what a wonderful mother she is to have had to deal with such a tragic ‘autistic son’. Sick woman
Sick , puppet , sad … I wonder if these women were as unhappy before they started this show or if something came out after it began airing? Maybe a femal somewhere confronted either Jax or Caro about things they didn’t know yet regarding Chris & Al or if they just became so jealous of Tre that they turned out this bitter & unhappy. ? Whatever caused it, it’s amazing that they can’t see it. The study of the human mind , how it works , justifies , denies etc. Very interesting. I think that’s the main reason I like some of these shows. Sad but true. & of course ignoring a son’s illness for tweeter??? I don’t think anyone can pull her out of whatever’s wrong ,she’ll have to do that, but if anyone truely cared you’d think they would try. ???
My opinion is that Jac should worry about her son half as much as she throws herself into everyone’s business that doesn’t concern her. From what I’ve seen she puts more energy into getting even with Teresa over stupid sh*t, even her own husband said what they are fighting over is stupid, then taking care of all her children. It’s really a shame she had to bring up Dina not acknowledging her son when for 2 seasons her main focus has been a pissing contest with her former BFF.
Like I have commented before, the fallout from Dina and Caroline and Jax has to do with Jax and Caroline pure and simple.
Ahh, but the more she talks the more you see how messed up she is. That’s the thing about clowns. They can’t help but tell you what they don’t know & while calling someone else names they let what’s so messed up about their life out. Ever notice how Jax & Carowhine seem to call Tre everything that’s true about them? Bad mom, bad marriage (Caro). Staying where they shouldn’t be. Lol. Human nature is a funny thing.
Jax saying that Dina hasn’t acknowledged her son just confirmed that Tree has been telling the truth yet again, and Chuckie is a liar. Nick is 3, so that means Dina hasn’t been on good terms with Jax and Chuckie for 3+ years. The drama with Tree didn’t start until about 1 to 1 1/2 years ago.
Good catch.
Asslee got OWNED by Lil Kim!!! LOL!!!
I noticed that too. So effin funny… OMG Thes people are a hot mess.
The best part is lil Kim saying “uneducated loser.” Didn’t she go to jail? What education does she have? an online degree, lol!
Like Lil Kim has any room to talk about anyone? She is an ex-felon. Thats something to be proud of, something you want your children to be proud of.
Sure…but when the ex-felons can actually look down on you, you know you are a loser.
Lets take away her right to an opinion as well. jax maybe facing hard time since bankruptcy fraud is a federal offense.
There are no fraud charges. Its a corporate bankruptcy. Those are accusations levied in every corporate bankruptcy. I have heard the bankruptcy has closed and now is the the civil accusations are the creditors last chance to try to get anyone to hear their claims.
It’s not closed.The Judge said he had never seen such egregious and irresponsible behavior. Fraud charges can be filed in a corporate as well as personal. The trustees launched an investigation after 57 million in expenses were not properly accounted for.
I have never seen a Judge make a remark like that about a case he is presiding over. To me to make such a statement automaticly open up the door to the appellate court . I think I would question the validity of that. Most of the documents listed do not even have the correct judge presiding over the bankruptcy. We will see who walks away from the bankruptcy without owing a dime. If there was any fraud charges, after 3 years you would have seen them.
Judges often call out fraud when rendering a judgement especially if they feel a fraud is being perpetuated. Why would that be grounds for an appeal rather than a simple statement of fact. Why would you believe in the fraudsters rather than an impartial Judge rendering his verdict based on the evidence? Masses of evidence. You might want to do your research. The Lauritas asked for a gag order. Not uncommon . The discovery process is ongoing. Until the discovery process is over October 26th and a hearing is held we will not be apprised of any charges.
Sorry. I have never seen a judge do that. Its very prejudicial and could come back to haunt him in an appellant court. The judge can voice his opinion after the verdict but never in open court while presiding over a case. Those words right there show that the judge has formed an opinion over the case before hearing all the evidence. In a US District Court, thats is grounds to have the judge immediately replaced. There is a Code of Judicial Conduct that oversees the federal judges and if that was said, he should be replaced.
I am still saying that any judge who stands up and says that in open court, on a case he is presiding over and he has not received all the evidence or isn’t ready to render a decision is being prejudicial and that is grounds to remove him or appeal in further litigation.
Amen!!
The Judge rendered his decision in writing as most Judges do. The Judge based his decision when presented with the results of the trustees investigation and when the Lauritas attorneys could not produce the required documents upon request. I’m quite sure the Judge knows the boundaries of conduct far better than we do and is acting within the scope. BTW it is Appellate not Appellant court. Chris has already signed a document admitting that he misrepresented information to the court. Today it has been revealed that Chris stole the Sig apparel computers and was using them in his new business contrary to the guidelines of the court ruling.It’s about to get nasty ….and not in a good way.
I j ust read about that…Nasty is a understatement.
Look I am not going to argue with you about my feelings. Its my opinion that the Laurita’s will walk out of there with a bankruptcy for their business and there will be no fraud charges. That’s my opinion. Its my opinion that if any judge that said that about a case that is open and he is presiding over, he has over stepped his bounds on being fair and impartial. I am very familiar with US District court and we will see what happens when it all closes. If it were my choice, no one should be able to file bankruptcy. I think everyone of them should have to do without to pay those people back. Its not a win win situation for anyone any of this people owe money to. It’s very sad.
Lisa , I am in shock. Chris lied to the court repeatedly claiming the computers were in the warehouse. He and his assistant removed 3 computers and hard drives from the warehouse. Now the hard drives have been corrupted thanks to a computer virus. How convenient. He and his attorneys misrepresented or as I call it lied to the court in sworn affidavits. Discovery has been continued and the Lauritas are not fighting it. Depositions are set to begin and I’m wondering who will turn State’s evidence? The assistant? First to squeal makes the best deal.
#TeamClaudine2012
So, it’s evident now. Caroline wrestled the Jaime wedding arc from Dina’s show to prove to the public that she’s a very decent human being and a loving sister, mother, etc…
Dina must’ve had a falling out with both Jac/Da Don/Jaime about it, and the rest is history.
Y’know I can totally see Dina, Caroline, and Jax embroiled in this huge argument with the latter two telling Dina that their show was going to “take her down!” Hence the “take me down” part of Dina’s tweet to Asslee. In the fallout, the majority of the Lauritas must’ve taken Dina’s side in the argument, as one would be inclined to considering how nasty Don C has become and what a f’ing thorn Jaxass’ inclusion to the Laurita family’s sude has proven out to be.
Haha right Lil’ Kim News! And wtf is with this never ending meatball challenge talk? Lauren must LOVE her some meatballs…
Yea, big deal Caroline won a meatball contest on Rachel Ray.Woo Hoo!
When Caroline has 3 NYT best selling cookbooks out, then those Manzo can talk. LOL.!!
Of course Lauren loves meatballs. She eats them like there’s no tomorrow.
Lauren IS a meatball.
Wow. Dina’s getting tough!
Dina is NOT staying quiet, she is tweeting and giving Interviews about why she is mad at Caroline. For someone who dosnt like Drama she is sure stirring it up.
I’m sorry, I disagree. Caroline and Jacqueline and Chris have stirred this up, Dina is just giving her side, she has every right.
Actually Caroline and Chris don’t say why they are mad at dina, Then have both said they Love Dina and been very vague as to whats going on..Dina on the other hand is running her mouth every chance she can. How can Dina be giving her side when The otherside isnt saying squat except there is a problem but they both still love Dina.
“Did you acknowledge your nephew” – Melissa Gorga via the mouth of Danielle Staub to Teresa Giudice
“She has never acknowledged my son” – Jac Laurita to Andy Cohen about Dina Manzo
Wow @ Bullie.. Thats right.
This gave me the shivers.
I am really sick of the pettiness. Jax, Caroline, MeGo are all intent on playing the victim card. I know it’s scripted drama but move on! Jax needs to get off the show and take care of her son rather than numbering who has offended her. At the end of the day it only matters that Jax knows about her son. Dina or Teresa are not part of the equation that will provide his remediation and frankly if this crap is Jax focus then apparently Nic will have to depend on caregivers and teachers to do all that they can for him. Mom is apparently incapable of making his remediation her priority and dropping out of the drama.
Caroline and Chris both brought up Dina in last weeks episode. Caroline brought up Dina on last years reunion, both said Teresa was partly to blame or whatever for their disagreement.
Dina never ever said anything until her name was mentioned and they blamed Teresa. Dina wrote her blog last year and this past week, she never said why they were fighting either and that she loves her brothers and sisters. I guess I should not have used the words ‘ her side’ .
Bottom line Caroline put it out there and so did Chris, Jacqueline too adding fuel to this fire.. Dina never did
I believe Teresa is the only who said that they were not talking to Dina.
Not true. Teresa never said anything about Caroline not talking to Dina. Teresa never mentioned Dina until Andy and Caroline brought it up at the reunion.
Teresa never said anything about Dina and Caroline not speaking. She never mentioned Dina until Andy and Caroline brought her up at the reunion.
Helllooooo????? The other side isn’t saying Squat?? implying Teresa is one of the major components.. when in fact Dina stated Teresa has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS?? and then Dina does not given any details…. Your perspective .. you have the right to have it .. but it is bizarre ….
Look it.. why do we try with Lisa the Dragon.. she’s Team Crazy anyhow..? let her have her opinions.. although why she’s here is a mystery to me…. ?
Also I want to add Don Caro.. having the NERVE TO SAY TO TERESA.. WHERE DID YOU GO AFTER THAT NIGHT ON THE PORCH? TO MY SISTER DINA? These woman sabotaged Teresa on National TV and she has THE NERVE TO QUESTION what friend Teresa seeks out when she was devastated over what they did or attempted to do to her? Is this woman MENTALLY ILL amongst being an evil doer?? I got so riled up .. that pathetic excuse of a human being!
I’m sick of Don Caro and her small, insignificant world. She’s 50 years old and still in junior high school. I wish Teresa would tell her to STFU, I’ll be friends with whomever I want, and I’ll film with whomever I want.
I actually agree with Lisa.
So let me get this right, are you saying that you have to be a Team Teresa to post here?
Haha evil doer? I’ve only heard one person say that phrase! Is that you Dubya? Are you addicted to housewives too?
j/k….but it wouldn’t it be funny if you were?
i do believe Teresa has nothing to do with it. Want some coffee.
I like you Lisa. Even though I don’t always agree with you, and on the Tre issue we definately disagree, you always make rational arguments and don’t resort to name calling of other posters! I appreciate that. Other posters who seem to take this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to personally should take note.
I agree Suzannea Lisa does make some valid points, and although she doesn’t favor Teresa many others do including myself she never resorts to name calling. I can’t stand that!!!!
I have to agree. Most here are very cool and I love to read the comments. I too am not a fan of Teresa’s or Dina and I have never ever resorted to calling either of them a filthy degrading name other than I did say Dina was a gold digger. Sorry to the Dina fan.
I understand, I’m no Dina fan either, but I think it’s very interesting when we don’t agree on the same things but get along. That’s what you call maturity, and although you aren’t a Tre fan it’s nice hearing things from your perspective. I’m a Teresa fan and she has some die hard nasty fans that will jump on anyone with opposing thoughts, now that is what I can’t stand!
I love the comments. I am not a spiteful person, not going to call anyone a nasty name or not like them for who they like. I just like to read the thoughts.
To Itsa, Chris and Caroline are both just trying to cover their lying as-es. Chris is not really the voice of reason has portrayed himself to be. He is currently being sued for, in the judge’s words, scandalous fraud, concerning his bankrupt clothing company, where he transferred company assets to his own personal accounts, then declared company bankrupsy. Those assets should have gone to pay creditors, especially at least one charity, The Susan G. Komen Foundation, who had an agreement with Laurita’s company for T- shirt sales and were never paid the $18,000.00 they were defrauded out of by Chris and his partners. Then there is BLK, an idea stolen from a Canadian company, who sued the Manzo/Lauritas for infringement on their concept. One Laurita sibling, their gay brother, Jamie, was to have his wedding featured on Dina’s show, until Caroline, aledgedly interfered and garnered that idea foe Bravo. You can imagine how Mandy loved that whole scenario as he is such a sh-t stirrer. That, it is thought, is perhaps the biggest reason for the animosity between Caroline and Dina. Dina was not at the wedding and some lame excuse was given at the time that episode aired, but now the truth has come out . Dina remained under the radar screen for a long time but the total, out of control craziness that RHONJ has morphed into, ESPECIALLY cray, cray Jacqueline is so over the top that even Dina can’t remain silent anymore. Until just recently, you did not hear much from Dina.Think much of her frustration stems from the fact that Chris appears not to be reigning his wife in and it’s apparent from a jillion viewer comments that Jac has derailed with her incessant, drunk tweets. For some one who supposedly has a special needs child, the question is, WHY are you engaged in such obsessive, negative behavior instead of spending your energy to focus on your son? And , why is no one stepping in to stop her? Chris continues to promote Jac as a wounded, sweet friend when it is obvious she is no longer the sweet victim she has tried to portray. Victim based personality disorders are well documented in psych manuals and Jac fits the bill. Flip side, tho, is the backlash people with this type of personality disorder are capable of unleashing, absolutely out of control vindictiveness not based in reality at all. Think Dina feels sorry for Ashlee and is clashing with Chris over his lack of action. Jac also stirred up some lying sh-t about Dina’s charity that caused a lot of trouble for Dina. This is the charity we all saw in season 1 and has never had any black aspirations attached to it until Jac ran off her pill addled, drunken mouth on her twitter account with her slanderous unproven remarks. Jac is a master at making comments she cannot prove or provide sources for as she claims she can’t out whoever fed her this (crazy and unfounded) information. It’s because she is certifiable and Dina feels Chris, Mr. Voice Of Reason , for some reason has not manned up and dragged Jac off the computer. So, there you have what many readers know. Do not be deceived by Doncaro or Chris. They both have their agendas which smack of protecting themselves. For all we know, and other commenters have suggested this, Chris wants Jac to look crazy as she is being sued right along with him and he naively thinks being nuts may get her off the hook. Only problem with that is they were sued before Jac started her crazy attacks on twitter, so the time line for her nutty behavior just doesn’t add up as a legit defense.
Prediction–Jac will “voluntarily” check into rehab for “stress”. You heard it here first.
I’m loving this new twitter rehab. Addicted to twitter.
Let me tell you something that is so obvious that I can’t believe I have to spell this out. Is it more fruitful to sit on your ass twittering about your autistic son, daily, daily, daily, hammering away the assertion that he has challenging cognitive abilities, or is it more helpful to said son to spend all your time with him? Be he autistic or not, it is of no benefit to him directly that his mother is twittering about him all day. In fact when he grows up it may actually give him a complex. She cares more about her ego, than her son. There I said it. Let me give another example, and I am in no way comparing him to a dog, so don’t even go there please. Is it more useful to tweet all day how you can’t housetrain your dog, with strangers, and swapping stories about it incessantly, to get off your damn phone and put the effort and work in to obtain progress with thing him dog? My next door neighbor has an autistic son. I see her soothing him in the warm water of the pool, I see that she has bought him a dog, which she is going through great expense to have trained to be a service dog for him. I see him riding in his car up and down the
street with three family members along side him. I see them taking him to North Carolina for a special camp for months on end and staying with him there, etc. Does
she give money to autism research and go autism fundraisers? Yes, but 99% of the time she is doing the loving work of a mom with him. She is single by the way.
Jacqueline does what she does to make HERSELF feel better. My neighbor does what she does to make her son feel better. Chris better rein in his insane wife, or take the
child away from her. It is getting to be as simple as that.
Goddamn auto correct. I can’t take it anymore.
Gessie, I have a friend with an autistic son. He’s 20 now, but she dedicated herself to him so he could live the best life possible. Jax does not act like any mother I’ve ever seen with a special needs child.
I know!
ITA Gessie. Jax needs to be involved 100% percent. Valuable time is lost when she is twittering rather than engaging him in a scheduled routine of therapies including play therapy. Jax should be reinforcing what the therapists are working on with her son. Even if she is only taking his hand and helping him stir the cookie dough or put a sprinkle of cheese on a pizza. I’m sorry I cannot grasp how she even has the time or the inclination to twitter or engage in negativity.
Come on. A 10 sec twitter is not taking away from a child. Thats kind of petty. You can multi-task with a small child. In checking twitter I see (1) today and (2) yesterday. You could twitter 100 times a day and we are talking what, 8 minutes a day? I do not think that 8 minutes will make a substantial difference if you are working hours with your child. Just a thought.
Actually I watched a psychologist discuss the actual time out of one’s day it takes to twitter and the distractability factor.. It isn’t the tweeting as much as it is following the thread of the tweets sent and received, composing tweets and the time one spends contemplating what to say , how to phrase it. Jax focus is not on her child and that is fact in my eyes and petty in yours. Do you know for every employee who sends 15 tweets the employers loses an hour of productivity? Interesting…..but hey I just fly by the seat of my pants never mind logic.
I tweet approx 10 times a day, most are work related. I tweet and I am done. My life doesn’t revolve around tweets or comps or any other electronic equiptment. Today is a slow day for me and since I am the boss, I can have a play day. I don’t care if someone tweets 400 times a day as long as they aren’t suppose to be working, driving or some dangerous activity. My nephew has come to work with me, spend quality time with him and work. He is autistic and 4 years old. I multitask.
@gessiewtf The thing that Jac doesn’t get is that your neighbor, in helping her son, has gained more happiness than Jac could ever buy herself…she didn’t appreciate Ashlee and CJ, (he and Ashlee seemed really tight and Ashlee was always sweet with Nick) Ashlee was dumped on her mother and father while Jac “modeled” and was a cocktail waitressing at Sam’s Town—( check this *off the strip* flea bag, There is a song that I love by The Killers with the same name and I knew they were from LV so…way back when I read Jac’s bio I had to look it up -http://www.samstownlv.com/entertain/roxys ) I just don’t get that fuzzy feeling when I see Jac with her children. It’s that same flat feeling I get when I see Meho with her children. Void of any real attachment or joy…IMO… I pray I’m wrong…
Since Jacqueline’s children are filmed so rarely (other than Ashley) how could we form any opinion at all? This last season did we see more than 5 minutes with her and her children on the show. I think that people’s dislike of Jacqueline has colored their perceptions.
No, Jac’s words and actions color my opinion of her.
And you know it will be Teresa’s fault that Jac needs rehab.
Of course I’m expecting that announcement any minute.
Gramalot, good synopsis of the Liarita situation. After all, da fambly is “as thick as thieves.” Chuckie and Chris are one and the same, but Chris does a great job covering up his real persona. Who steals $18, 000 from a charity?
Chris is no different than the common thief that knocks off a Salvation Army collection kettle. He is scum.
cj ur right. he stole the money from susan komen, breast cancer research. $18,000 dollars.
today, 10/22 is national breast cancer awareness day. is he hiding his face today? yes i am
a survivor.
Kaytek, so glad you are a survivor! It takes a special kind of evil to steal from charity. Meanwhile, Chris and Jax are living the good life in their McMansion, driving their luxury cars, Jax getting a “procedure” every week and they couldn’t find the $18,000 to give back to the Susan G. Komen Foundation?
Ok. You keep going on and on about the Luarita corporate bankruptcy but what about those who haven’t been paid from the Giudice bankruptcy attempt. What about Ruby Persha who lived in one of the apartments that Joe and Teresa Giudice owned and rented out. The stairs collapsed in one of the not maintained buildings and she sued them and won 129,826.00 for her injuries (aka People Mag.) and when they filed bankruptcy they added that judgement. This woman was injured. She was hurt due to neglect. She also stated in court the utilites were off alot because the Giudices never paid them. This woman as of today has still never been paid.
The Lauritas are on the hook for 57 million.They ripped off Susan G Komen for 18,000. Hubs is a CPA and his pet peeve is the public acting as if Corporate Bankruptcy is somehow better or noble. How many people lost their jobs when the Lauritas decided to use company funds to fund their lifestyle . Lavish lifestyle with luxury cars, private jet travel, lavish spending. if your boss provides services to Signature Apparel how long do you think a company can operate when invoices are unpaid? How can the companies make payroll? Provide insurance to employees? Keep the lights on in the office ? the factory? It is naive and irresponsible for the public to assume that corporate bankruptcy is negligible. It is not.
Sorry but its all smoke and mirrors. The amount of the SA bankruptcy grows here everyday. Most of the document that have been shown are not even legitimate. Ofcourse the creditors have claimed frauds. Every corportate bankruptcy does. Its nothing NEW. Watch, when this is all over, there will be a bankruptcy and there will be not one charged levied. That was the creditors last ditch effort to try to get any money they could out of the owners of the company.
Smoke and mirrors? Tell that to the people who are out of a job because a corporation did not pay their bills. The Judge has already delayed the bankruptcy due to fraud. Oh but that’s ok it’s a corporate bankruptcy. No harm. No foul. A federal Judge declared there was evidence of fraud and so of course he must be incapable of determining that the documents were not legitimate. He only went to Law School for 3 years.
My opinion. We will see. I am just saying there will be no fraud charges and the bankruptsy will close.
The Only Difference between the Bankruptcy’s is The Guidices are forgiven because people here Like them and see nothing wrong with what they did. The Lauritas are hated so they are they are not easily forgiven. Both Family committed fraud both Lied in Court. But only one side is condemned it seemed the other excused.
I have to agree 100%. No one around here should get a free ride. When you bilk people out of money, YOU SHOULD PAY. Its not any worse for the Laurita’s than the Giudice’s. My personal opinion is that you should have to repay the money, every dime but we know that will never happen. The Giudice’s are suppose to pay, are they? The former business partner and creditors are saying NO. I think the Laurita’s should pay too, but I think they will walk not owing a dime. Its very sad for all the people involved. I love reading the posts here. I am not a hater, I hope I am not rude and if I post something hateful, rude or wrong, kick my butt around the block.
The fact the Guidices are paying dosnt erase the fact they Lied and got caught.
I do agree The Lauritas should pay to But they will not have the option to pull the Bankruptcy. like the Guidices did..I dont know how Corporate bankruptcy s work but if they debt is wiped clean they wont have to pay,if they are found guilty of fraud they should pay
with jailtime.
oh Lacy I am really curious how you know this when today Chris admitted lying to the court and having possession of the Signature Apparel computers and was using them in his new company. Surprise a computer virus wiped out the hard drive. Funny the Feds were searching for those computers in order to follow the money trail. Surprise the computers caught a bad ole virus. Whats next a convenient warehouse fire to wipe out the thousands of boxes of documents?
this info was from Faux Entertainment. Not exactly what I would refer to as a reliable source. Look at the info they have on the 10 Wakile lawsuits, check the dates. All of these are years and years ago. 1990′s. I think one was a medical bill from 1996. I am sure all of us out there have one medical bill that got misplaced or they never sent us. The most recent on that page was 2002 and since it was cut off, you can’t see if he was the def or plaintiff. The years are listed right there. Look all that info is open to the public
These are the ones I found on Joe and Teresa today.
Moretto, Rebecca PF vs Giudice, Giuseppe & Teresa Docket # DC 004345 12 2012
Mastropole,Joseph PF vs Giudice, Giuseppe & Teresa Docket# 1 005007 12 2012
Moretto, Rebecca PF vs Giudice, Giuseppe & Teresa Docket #: DC 002451 12 2012
These is paperwork has been filed against them this year only. There are tons and tons more in NJ and NY in different counties. Anyone can put stuff out there, it might not be accurate or even current but can be made to look like it through cut and past. I will believe the paperwork when I see the original documents filed with the court.
ITA-Aint Pittypat! The corporate banckruptsy..bru-ha-ha….is infuriating! I am so enjoying reading your posts….Thanks!
It’s about to get a whole lot worse for the Lauritas. Chris swore in an affidavit that the Signature Apparel computers were in a warehouse in NJ along with thousands of boxes of document with receipts Turns out Chris Mcshady and his assistant removed all the computers to use in his new company. And gosh darn it! The computer hard drives caught a virus? Depositions are scheduled and it’s about to get nasty..Please read all about it at faux Entertainment but please be advised it’s a corporate bankruptcy so not as bad as those damn Guidices. Insert sarcasm.
You can spin this any way you want, but you’re still missing the point. Most viewers of the rhonj probably wouldn’t of cared about the SHADY Laurita business matters — BLK & Signature apparel — if Jacko-lie-n,& Caro-lie-n hadn’t of been so hell bent on endlessly pointing their fingers at Teresa & Joe’s money matters.
I can honestly say, that as a long time viewer of the show, I initially wasn’t interested in anyone’s money matters. To me–that was all fluff…stuff that… to me…I had very little interest in. After all, for me & many viewers– the appeal of the show was about women in New Jersey, their antics, kids, having fun and the over all “Jersey Thing.” When Caro., Jacko & Chris started getting all dark & ugly and all about money, money, money and it wasn’t even about there own finances—I began to wonder! My first thought was hmmmm. “why are the Laurita/Manzo’s so concerned about drawing SO….much attention to the Giudice financial matters?
I decided to go on line–when I began to read and discern what I was reading about BLK–it caught my attention. Bravo did NOT and clearly, would NOT allow a single comment to be printed about BLK on the bravo site! That’s a fact-Jack! As the finger pointing at Teresa worsened by friend’s & family, I became more frustrated by Bravo’s, clearly, Biased blog monitoring and it began to piss more and more viewers off!!
The bottom line is wacko Jacko and her-mouth, Don Caro. and her hateful, ugly behavior and Bravo’s biased behavior brought this upon themselves!! What Signature Apparel did is a disgrace….
Last, but certainly not least…I for one am incredible grateful to have found the “Stoopid Housewives” site!! Here, at least, we can voice our opinions and thoughts, as we see and feel, w/o the nonsense of a biased-bravo site, or some poster taking a cheap-uneducated pot shot, simply because we happen to support Teresa. Bravo May not allow us-the viewers to point out the hypocrisy of the “other” housewives and the show, but HERE on SH—we can –and we do!
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Sorry, that last line was an over sight on missed deletion…my bad!
Hee, hee! Tourette’s?
Look, at the end of the day I couldn’t care less about the Giudices, Manzos, Gorgas or Wakiles. When I turn on the show, I see BLK being promoted and all of Teresa’s products. I see each and every product promoted by each housewife making it on the show. I don’t think there is a conspiracy by Bravo to make Teresa look bad. I don’t think there is any conspiracy to make anyone on that show look better or worse. These women do it to themselves. I see two very public bankruptcies. What I see is a whole list of people and other businesses getting hurt. Its not just the Laurita’s or the Giudices, its all the people they owe. And lets be frank, the Giudices are still 11 million dollars in debt. They have paid off No One. My point being, you can’t criticize and comdemn one without going after the other too. The Susan Komen Foundation is out 18k but the former tenant of Joe and Teresa’s is out 130k for injuries she sustained. Fair is fair.
I don’t know how you can say the Giudice’s haven’t paid off anyone, and that they are still 11 million dollars in debt. Where do you get that? Over a year ago more then 1/2 of their 11 million dollar debt was paid back to creditors when Joe sold the buildings that T&J once owned. The sale of those buildings was done by the banks-themselves. The banks basically took and sold them and monies from the sales of those buildings were paid to creditors, including the money paid to the once partner of Joe’s. I would imagine T&J took quite the hit on that….bank-involvement!!!!
I don’t know enough about the woman you refer to…so I can’t comment on that. I find it interesting that you would make the point that you can’t criticize and condemn one without the other, because THAT is exactly the point MANY of us have said and have been making for a year now!! This didn’t start with the Laurita’s getting called out and the Giudice’s not being called out. In fact it is, and always has been, quite the opposite! Are you truly not aware of this, or are you just trying to spin the situation??? Why do you think so many viewers jumped on line do to research on the finances of the Laurita’s and the Gorga’s? My point has always been….if you’re going to call out someone else then be prepared….. to have the same done to you! You know the saying….if you’re going to point your finger…. best you be prepared to have 4 being pointed back at you!! you!udices…then call out the Lauritas!! T&J did NOT start this….
Look at the judgements filed this year.
Moretto, Rebecca PF vs Giudice, Giuseppe & Teresa
Docket # DC 004345 12 2012
Mastropole, Joseph Pf vs Giudice, Guiseppe & Teresa
Docket #l 005007 12 2012
Moretto, Rebecca PF vs Giudice, Guiseppe & Teresa
Docket #: DC 002451 12 2012
Her net debt is 11.2 million as of September 2012. These are just 3 of the judgements filed this year in NJ. There is also judgements filed in NY.
The press started this when the Giudices filed bankruptcy. The press jumped on it. The rag mags jumped too.
Teresa brought Dina up on the reunion before last not Caroline. “No wonder Dina doesn’t speak to you” is what Tree said and Caroline responded. On the last reunion Caroline brought up the taping with Teresa to show her the parallel of their situation not to discuss Dina. From watching Teresa the last two seasons she does do things to interfere in relationships. Going to Dina for comfort after their disagreement on the balcony was wrong. Talking to Dina on camera about Caroline was wrong. It put Dina in an awkward situation and created even more distance and hurt feelings with her family. Tree has one set of standards for herself and another for everyone else. Teresa can’t see that and she can’t hear anyone that tries to talk to her.
No Andy asked Caroline a viewer question about how could Caroline give advice when she doesn’t speak to family members, on the season 3 reunion. Caroline brought up Dina, and that she blamed Teresa for them not speaking. Please watch again. Teresa did say what she said to Caroline , but that was later on in the reunuion and Caroline was getting really nasty, so was Teresa.
I’m sorry I totally disagree, Caroline has totally interfered in Teresas family business last season and this.
Teresa went to Dinas the night Jacqueline and Caroline went at her becaise she was upset, ( she has been freinds with her for over 15 years)she said this last night and she did not bash Jacqueline and Caroline.
Dina has cleared all this up. I beleive Dina before I would ever ever believe Jacqueline and Caroline.
I could be wrong about how Dina was brought into this and it seems I am. It doesn’t change my feelings about Tree putting Dina in the middle. If Caroline or Jacq had done the same Teresa would be calling foul. I’m confident that Tree has other close friends she could have turned to. My personal feelings. I can say anything I want about my family but no one else can. They may be Jerks but their my jerks!
Yes, orignalcyn1
Thats how it happened. Teresa never brought Dina up, Caroline did.
I’m not trying to change your mind, I get what you are saying. I just do not happen to agree about the Dina situtation with you.
Now talking about family I agree!! I can say stuff but no one eles better say a word.
The worst in my opinion in that whole group are the Gorgas and Wakiles. Awful, disgusting!
I agree! IMO part of the reason Caroline and Jacque became so nasty is that there was no break from the family fighting. I think they got played by Tree’s Family and when they figured things out they just didn’t care and wanted the out of the mess. Let’s face it in real life a little of Teresa goes along way under the best of circumstances. Add her family and it is a nightmare. I would like to see her family gone and friendships mended. It would be the best FU you could give Teresa’s family.
Actually I think Caroline might have figured this out. Jacqueline Umm not so much, she loves the drama, being involved, and the gossip, very very sick person in my opinion.
I agree with you, Cyn, It seems to me that Chucky actually might feel a little bad about how the season went down. Rumor is they asked her back and she declined. I think you’re right, I think Teresa is probably a handful, and the others just pushed the whole thing over the edge,. She seemed to be as sick of Mel and Katty at the reunion as she was Tree
Here’s sumpin to think about regarding the Tree/Dina thing. I hope I can convey this properly. Tree obviously have many many friends, friends we as viewers don’t even know. But the night of the deck ambush, Dina would have been the logical one to turn to in the immediate aftermath simply because Dina knows the game, she knows the crew, she understands the filming process in a way that Tree’s other non-RHONJ friends might not. So if it were me, I would have chose Dina to turn to for comfort and understanding because she has been there. As a result there would be a lot I wouldn’t have to explain to a non-cast mate(ex or not) Also, we don’t know how airtight those contracts are in terms of what the cast can and cannot divulge to outsiders. So I don’t blame Tree for turning to her long term friend in her hour of need. And I am sure it was brutal given that the filming process that day took hours. Don and Jax are just pissed that Tree didn’t tuck her tail between her legs and go off by her lonesome to lick her wounds. They are the type that aint happy till they see blood.
ITA Made. Dina was the only person capable of not only understanding but also advising Teresa on moving forward.
MP, you’re absolutely right. Teresa didn’t put Dina in an awkward position either. Dina was already at odds with the Manzoid/Liarita famblies. As Dina said, she gets along with 9 other siblings. Interesting that so many of the siblings want nothing to do with Chuckie.
If anyone put Dina in an awkward position this season it was production with their bullcrap editing. Dina would be the only other one except Tree that understands what it feels like with production sets someone up in that manner. Watching WWHL last night I cant help but feel that Don’s day is coming. And I think she knows it too. She will have Jax to cry to when the fit hits the shan next season.
Don,
Production is not your friend. I think they even despise your kids just a frog hair more than you. So just remember that going forward.
Don’t be blinded by the lights in your eyes!
Love,
Made
Is Caro going to be on next season? I thought she declined the invitation? :-/
Last night Jac brought up things Teresa said against Dina.She has to try and ruin anyones relationship out of spite. When Chris said all of this was petty esp. due to their sons diagnosis, Jac should have listened. The Lauritas are a whole bucket of crazy and yet Caroline thinks the family tiffs ought to be off limits yet the Guidices should be ON DISPLAY,ON DISPLAY…………
Bullseye!
Agreed!!!
Maybe Teresa should have left that set up on the porch and jumped off a bridge instead of going to a dear friend for comfort.
Oh Gessie you know that’s not what I meant. I think that Teresa had many friends to turn to and Dina wasn’t the best choice.
the best person for Tre to turn to WAS DINA. Teresa’s friend and Caroline’s sister. She knows all the players, and she knows where all the bodies are buried. I think Tre wouldn’t go to another friend because that would be gossiping about CAROLINE and JACQUELINE to people who don’t know the whole story. I think Tre trusted Dina to give her an honest opinion about the situation, including trusting Dina to tell Tre she was wrong if Dina really thought she was wrong. To go to another friend would have been too “gossippy” IMO.
Tree’s number one complaint is that people interferer with her family. I don’t think it’s too much to ask Teresa to do the same. Most people have the ability to look outside themselves and see what is best for the whole. It put Dina in a very awkward place. Friends don’t do that to friends.
You don’t get to choose Cyn. Teresa has every right to go to a friends house. I actually think it’s more respectful to discuss it with Dina since Jax and Caroline are her family rather than telling a random friend about it. Dina then has the option to divulge the information if she chooses too. Dina has also been on the show and can offer genuine experienced counsel to Teresa. ITA Teresa is attacked but please let’s all condemn her for whom she chooses to vent too and confide in.
I agree Aint! Also, Dina, Tre, Caro, and Jax were all friends at one time. The situation with Tre’s family, Mego and Kathy, is completely different, because there was not a time when Mego and Kathy were close friends with Caroline and Jax. So any discussion of Tre’s situation/family issues between Mego and Kathy and the others can’t be because they are friends and are confiding in one another. There’s no group dynamic there, like there was with Dina, Tre, Jax, and Caro. They barely know each other, compared to how well Tre and Dina know each other. Mego telling Caro and Jax things is just meant to spite.
Not any that know what it is like to be stabbed in the back on a Reality t.v. show, I’ll venture.
I partially agree with you because I see where you are coming from. But I believe Dina and Teresa are extremely close. You don’t ask just anyone to be the godmother to your child. Why should Teresa be deprived of Dina because Caroline and Jac are acting like mean girls?
why can’t tre go wherever she wants if she is welcome? is this high school?
actually w/caro and jac it is merely kindergarten. jac is the biggest bitch, of all the women
on rhonj any season, and that is saying a lot, considering the gorga, walkie, additions.
i don’t think jac really has any real friends, unless some r using her for info. or to control her.
tre was probably the best friend she will ever have had. i think she knows that; so she has
to take her down, to look good. one sick puppy.
Great point Kate but that is how desperate some are. Teresa is held to a code of conduct that is not applicable to the others. It isn’t HS but sometimes it sure feels that way. Teresa was friends with Dina before the show but heaven forbid she seek comfort from an trusted friend.
She couldnt, I mean it took 7 hrs to film she was prob to tired from all the Retakes and do Overs they did in the 7 hrs Jumping off a bridge takes energy.
ITA! Anytime, some1 confronts Tre about ANYTHING, she deflects what they say right back to them. I cant believe she doesnt see it. I used to love T but about midseason (the season before this 1 that just ended), my opinion of her changed, she is nothing like she used to be. I dont see how every1 doesnt see the change.
Who cares if Teresa “deflects” what others say back onto them? THEY ALL DO IT. In fact, that’s all Jacqueline and Melissa did all season long and throughout the past year. It’s funny how they expect Teresa to “own” up to her crap (when she’s the only one who has ever admitted she did anything wrong) while they find every excuse to play the victim and blame Teresa for doing this or doing that.
I believe Teresa brought it up first also. Teresa said she went to Dina’s on her way home, but anyone who knows Franklin Lakes knows that Dina’s house would have been way out of the way for her to go home. Teresa went to Dina’s to cause a problem. I have to agree with you orig, I think she does do things to cause problems and interfere in relationships.
Considering Teresa and Dina have been good friends for 15+ years, she has every right to go to Dina and vent.
I see no problem with Teresa going to a friend’s house to talk. Good grief, just because it was Teresa. What about Jac running to Kim G’s, I guess that was ok. She didn’t fulfil an obligation to Bravo. Hang one but not the other. Doesn’t work that way in my book. There is no one in this world who will tell me what friend I can visit and friend I cannot. JMO Thank you
She has never given an interview about why she is fighting with her sister. She has written blogs on her personal website stating why she is not mad at Teresa and explaining that her argument with her family has nothing to do with Teresa.
I will say, I think Dina is kinda lying. The family fight is about Teresa… it’s about Caroline and Jac being mad at Dina for not joining their army against Teresa. The problem is they are also mad at Dina for having her own show and succeeding without her family, which is why Caroline pulled Jamie’s wedding from Dina. In case everyone has missed this, Caroline and Jacqueline have no lives of their own. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a full time mom, but these two literally have no real interests or hobbies or anything. It’s very strange.
Hi Bullie.. if you go to Teresa’s tweets one male fan has a link and asked Teresa and Mego to please read this article… I read it.. and it was amazing.. and i believe it stated that Dina’s problems rose from Season 1 with her “family”.. since JACKO WACKO gave details to DANIELLE re: her custody fight with her ex… which caused a lot of problems… so Dina on some level expected her family to stand “by” her.. and stand up against them.. which she did by leaving.. and DonCaro and Jacko DID NOT! and also Dina was extremely upset with Jacko who leaked very PRIVATE INFO TO DANIELLE.. re: her child. Then in the article Dina commented “how intelligent” they were… This is the closest i got to understanding what happened.. That’s why she said If i FELT LOVE FROM MY BROTHER AND SISTER.. DO YOU THINK I WOULD STAY AWAY? The repercussions could have been devastating to Dina’s life and her relationship with her daughter to have someone like Danielle giving info to her EX.. the family all knew and still stayed on the show…. Teresa HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS..
CB: All of this info has been on SH…and discussed on SH. TFC!! SH
AHA CB I was thinking the same thing. If you look through Danielle’s twitter, she does mention that Jacqueline told a lot stuff to her about her SILs and how much she didn’t like them.. If you think Im lying read her twitter line from last year! And then Dina states in her blog that the fight started from S1. Put 1 and 2 together IMO Dina is upset with Jacqueline for spreading rumors to Danielle about Dina. Caroline was upset at Danielle for trying to take Dina’s daughter away from her in S1 reunion. If you look at S2 when Jacqueline gave birth, maybe they didn’t tape her, but I haven’t seen Dina visiting J. Dina only visited Teresa. IMO I think that time they were still pissed off at each other. Another thing, if you read one of J blog, forgot the one, but she says that “Teresa envies Melissa and Joe’s relationship just like Dina envies Chris and hers relationship” that i find to be interesting..hmmm..I also find it weird that J told T she didn’t want to be friends with her over articles. Bizarre! and then how convenient C comes to visit to return bathing suits. We All know that C could have returned it the next day when it was morning but she comes by at night. Bizarre. IMO Chris called C to come over, and C as much as she doesn’t like T wanted J to not be her friend as well. Like I said before, if C wasn’t angry at T the fashion show fiasco wouldn’t have occurred. We All know C wouldn’t have gotten involved with family issues. Even her daughter was against it, yet she said “Melissa needed to know the truth”? really C really.That doesn’t fly nicely to me. I find it interesting that C re-tweets a lot of Jamie’s tweets. I remember once that on twitter chris manzo insulted his uncle for retweeting people who disliked C. I also remember Jamie adoring T and now all of a sudden he indirectly insulting her and being friends with Kathy.. Interesting isn’t. Kathy sucks up to C ALL the TIME so i find that to be interesting as well. IMO again C envies T for all of her success, take it or leave it. T is a housewife that takes care of 4 young daughters and works hard as well. The book store part in the lost footage to me showed me how hard she is working to get her book out. to be honest I would do the same thing, it called business for a reason. I find C to be very controlling and wants everyone to take her side. Why because every single one of them except T are sucking up to her. especial.. Kathy..Maybe because Kathy and C are in the same boat about the cookbook fiasco lol just saying. Again if C was NEVER anger at T the fashion show fiasco wouldn’t have occurred!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bullie, agree with most of what you say, but don’t think Dina has lied, just has too much integrity to air family matters for all to see. She just is SICK of the hypocrisy from Chris and Caroline, feels terrible for Teresa and has some sympathy for Ashlee who Chris and Jac threw under the bus. Carobully’s motivation in all of this has a lot to do with protecting her precious sons Bravo paychecks and the Manzo family skeletons, which after all the allegations thrown at Teresa for 2 full seasons, Teresa is finally beginning to hint at. It’s about time. Teresa is the only REAL old school Italian on this franchise who has not alluded to a lot of the Manzo/Laurita/Wakile secrets so as not to hurt her parents or Caroline’s parents and I believe Dina has held her tongue for the same reasons. Bravo have just gone to far with this 4 on 1 “let’s gang up on Teresa” plot, their scripted nonreality based, time line altered ,viewer duping attempt to grab ratings gold.ENOUGH!!
I have to agree. Neither Dina, Caroline or Chris have come out publicly and said WHY. There are alot of people out their guessing and that is what they are, Guesses. I think Dina is friends with Teresa because its convenient right now. Teresa has publicly stated that she went long periods of time and neither seen or talked to Dina. Dina became friendly again when Teresa did CA. Dina was sure Teresa would hold true to her promise to use Dina’s charity. Teresa didn’t. Then all the sudden Dina had her own show coming up and thought Teresa would be the person to help her get publicity for the show. As we all know, Dina’s choice didn’t help. Her show didn’t get the huge ratings she hoped for. Dina is a golddigger and does whatever will help her own cause.
I totally agree. She is all about drama. She has 3 siblings who are not speaking to her. I think she might be the problem.
Yep, Ashlee is proof positive that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
When did Lil Kim get involved?? Wasn’t there a picture of Tre and Lil Kim posted somewhere?? Are they friends?
I think it was a Lil Kim fan.
OOOHH!!! LOL!! – I am not a twitter person and can never figure out who tweeted/retweeted or whatever what. Funny!
Lil Kim LOVES TERESA!
Like I said, Lil Kim is quite the roll model. Maybe she can give Joe some pointers about prison.
Lauren with her thug wanna be talk, calling someone playaaa.
Hahaha.
Well, she did call Teresa a dickface at the reunion. Such a refined, classy, young lady.
I think she called her a dickhead and was right for doing it. Teresa has been making fun of her for the lapband. Lauren has talked bad about Teresa, but that was only after the book!
I have to agree. Teresa called everyone out on botox, lapbands, lips but it was hilarious when Jac called her out on the boobs.
That was great. Teresa is just a punk. She made fun of Caroline for not getting botox saying that she needs it, then makes fun of Jac for getting botox??? She is a train wreck, lol! She really needs to get her head examined; prob all them do.
Exactly and great point Barb. Kim G listens to Jax. Aid. Comfort. Sympathetic ear. Loyalty? Heck NO. Kim G turns around and sells the story to Radar Online. Dina and Teresa’s relationship pre-dates the show. Even Chris L admitted the depths of the Tre & Dina relationship.
That shows you how classy she is. NOT She belongs in Newark…..Actually so does her mother… people with real money DO NOT TALK IN PUBLIC like they do.
Exactly. I would die of humiliation if my daughter ever used that term to describe another adult. Ugh.
Dina just tweeted that it was a “discussion” not an argument…
Crazy jac needs to shut her fat mouth. There jealous of Teresa……
Their?
LOL, wasn’t me.
So, Teresa being so competitive is pathetic, but Lauren bringing up a lame talk-show cook-off judged by Rachel Ray from 2 YEARS AGO is normal and completely acceptable? Between Lauren with her immature tweets and the boys with their childish display about Teresa’s magazine apology, all the Manzo kids just further embarrassing themselves.
The manzo kids are mean spirited, and have been joking at teresa and her family for a very long time, before the feud even began, yet the guidice children are the subject of meaness?
Lapband is spiteful and jealous. Knocking Tre’s 3 cookbooks – JEALOUSY. Tre’s meatballs were very good; DonCaro’s meatballs were very good. The vote was close and DonCaro won.
DonCaro has not published a cookbook – her cookbook was not picked up by a publishing house.
What’s the problem? Jealousy. And Lapland Lauren is a mess. Get some help, honey.
Sorry….but the manzos canot continue to bring dinas name up on this platform and expect her to not say a word to defend herself. Jacqueline is the main one throwing digs at dina left and right….so idont blame to for getting aggrivated. There is probably a lot behind the scenes….
i DON’T think Dina trusts JackoWacko at ALL! and i for one am not sure about anything re: their son unless i saw doctor’s reports… this could be them being desperate..since they could lose it ALL.. and jail time… so if they came up with BLK water healed my son? nothing would surprise me.. but looks like she neglects the kid.. 1 1/2 hours on the phone with Kim D every morning and twittering and plotting the rest.. LOL.. geeessshhh how is the child being taken care of? LOL all of this is crazzzy… but i don’t believe ANYTHING out of her mouth .. sadly.. even the diagnosis… when up against a wall people will do “unimaginable things”…..
P.S. Thus.. Dina might not have responded… BUT ALSO Jacko lies about everything.. although DonCaro is siding with Jacko.. so if this is true.. and i see Dina with a BIG HEART.. she really wants NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WOMAN!
To CB YES> YES< YES!!!!!! Haven't had the courage to suggest an autism fraud, but can see that as an absolutely HIDEOUS possibility. Makes me sick to suggest that, but can;t deny that I would not count it out with these masters of deception .Jac is a candidate for an intervention and the sooner, the better. Didn't happen for RHONY's Kelly Ben Simon, another victim based personality disorder. Bravo needs to screen for the certifiable, but actually think they are looking for over the top crazy ass drama queens who are willing to do whatever their malfunctioning brains are capable of no mattert who they damage. Kelly and Danielle and Jacqueline are dangerous. .
CB and Gramalot, there have been others suggesting the same for some time. You aren’t the first. Given the Manzoid/Liarita track record, along with Jacko’s current behavior, it is a legitimate question.
Wow. You are saying that Nicholas’s autism is a fraud? I take that very personal due to the fact that I have a nephew who autistic. Autism is such a hateful disease that destroys families. Have you ever seen the day to day life of an autistic child. Any family who has a child with any type of disablity has so much to overcome. It breaks my heart that anyone would suggest that anyone who has an autistic child would use it for publicity. My nephew is the most loveable and giving 4 year old I have ever seen Most parents of autistic children will never see their child play sports, play with other neighborhood kids without some sort of ridicule from someone, they will never see their child go to a prom or even date. They will never see their child fall in love, marry and have their own children. I am sorry but have you ever experienced the stress of having a disabled child? What was said was pretty hateful. Has anyone seen Holly Robinson Peete. She too has an autistic child. She constantly tweets about autism. She also said when her child was diagnoised she was so stressed and so was the family. It does cause many many sleepless nights.
Lacey, no one is saying anything negative about autistic children. Unfortunately, autism has become so common, there are not very many of us that don’t have friends or family that have been touched. We all know how difficult it is for these families.
In fact, there are several posters that have close family members with autism. Their family, i.e., the mothers of the autistic children act quite differently than Jax. These mothers, fathers and grandparents are working tirelessly to help their children.
Given the enormous fraud(s) the Liaritas are involved in, along with Jax’ bizarre behavior it has caused many to question the diagnosis.
I agree that everyone has a friend or family member with this disease.. I see Jac as the typical stressed out mom who is learning to deal with a tragic outcome on a childs life. What I objected to was for someone to throw out there that they would use that as an excuse to create more drama. No one I know would use that to get sympathy, especially those on a reality TV show. I just thought it was a very sad and hurtful statement that several even agreed with.
A tragic outcome? Not to be rude but this is not a death sentence! Nic has not been diagnosed with terminal cancer. Nic will likely remediate and will hopefully have a bright future. My oldest daughter did not talk until she was 5 and as a therapist told us would likely have been diagnosed with autism. She speaks 5 languages and is a University fellow before 30 , complete full ride scholarship with 40,000 dollar a year living stipend.
I am so glad I never raised her as if she could never succeed, as if she were some sort of tragedy instead of a beautiful blessing .IMO and I say this from been there, done that…Jax needs to devote herself to Nic’s possibilities and stop the pity party.
Thank you Made. In tears. This is very personal for me. Every single person has gifts as a parent you have a responsibility to help your child discover their particular gift. It may be a protracted battle, a long arduous journey but the rewards are worth it. God puts everything you need in your path. These children are beautiful and gifted in ways we cannot grasp. It saddens me that they are seen as less than . If all they can do is love you…. isn’t that in itself sufficient? We need as culture to stop defining success in such a narrow way. We need to stop putting children in boxes and rigidly making all children conform to societies definition of normal. My problem with labels is the child becomes the label and not the original , complex, individual they were intended to be.
Beautifully said Pittypat. Ya know reading your words it occurs to me that God intrusts these special children to only the most special of parents. I am reminded of the story about the little girl playing at her mothers feet, looking up at her momma while she is doing cross stitch and only seeing the underneath mess of threads could not see the beautiful picture her momma was making and looking down on it at the time the mother was the only one of the two that could see the beauty. God does cross stitch too. One day we will all be able to see the beautiful picture he is making of our lives but right now sometimes it just looks like a bunch of willy-nilly tangle threads. Autistic children have the ability to see what we can’t. It’s almost like they are in on the task with God. This cross stitch. This beauty.
MP: Beautiful. Thank you. TFC!! SH
You’re welcome. That story just kept playing over and over again in my mind.
Made , your comment below mine is wonderful. Thank you so much, it means a lot. D went to have her add script refilled and spent an hour with a new psychiatrist. D called me after so excited and said the Doctor says you are an exceptional Mom and wanted to know all about you. I wasn’t an exceptional Mom I was a determined Mom. God put everything in my path. Ballet lessons that taught her to physically express her feelings and how to focus and be disciplined. Violin lessons another form of expression without words , another way to be creative ,yet disciplined . Both girls had a fairly rigid schedule due to their pursuits. I look back now and am totally in awe at how god has moved in my life. Every life is a miracle and who are we to question his creations. I am not saying it’s easy and my heart goes out to those who struggle and work so tirelessly . i pray god gives them strength and courage for the journey.
Aunt Pittypat thank you so much for putting this so eloquently. Autism is NOT A DEATH SENTENCE. I am sick of people waving their martyr flags and being lauded for their “bravery” in raising an autistic child. You do what you have to for your child. They are entitled to the same love, care and opportunities as anyone else. And yes, I have a 6 year old daughter with autism. It is exhausting and difficult at times, but it is not all of who she is. She does not wear a scarlet A for Autism on her shirt. She is a kid with developmental delays who needs a little extra attention and time to get things done. Try talking to parents of kids at St Jude or Sloan Kettering about heartbreak and tragedy. Sorry for the rant — I was so happy to read a comment from someone who gets it
Autism is a very cruel disease that has no boundries. You sound like a wonderful and caring mom. My nephew is the cutist thing on earth. I love his little hands and his adorable smile. My sister is an amazing mom and its very stressful for her on a day to day basis. I commend anyone who has an autistic child. Its alot of work and those are amazing people raising an amazing child. Each child is so different too, treatments and solutions to help are riddled with such different results.
Thanks AuntPittypat — there are so many touched by autism in one way or another. And you are right — there is no one cause or cure — it is a moving target. All we can do — and should do — is love these children and work with them to make life easier for them. That does not mean taking to twitter and bashing a former friend to smithereens for real and perceived slights that a 13-year old would think is immature. It is very hard to be a positive role model and a positive force in your child’s life when you are filled with such hate.
I meant to thank you laceyschatting — post lunch haze i guess!
lol no problem
Thank you Market. My concerns mirror yours. My hope is that we can start a discussion that raises awareness as well as appreciation. for these wonderful children I so appreciate your positive attitude and unwillingness to treat your daughter asif she wears as you stated so perfectly “a scarlet A for autism.” You are a wonderful advocate for the most important person in the world, your daughter.
God bless you. I wish every child had at least one parent like yourself as an advocate.
I took my child to a developmental specialist when she was 2 and a half . After a battery of tests she cruelly told me that D would never develop and I should consider putting her in a home. I was devastated for months. My brother finally snapped me out of my despair and said “we never ever give up on our kids.”
26 years later I watched my daughter give her first public lecture to a group of academics
in her field at a top ten University. She presented a slide show as well as switching back and forth between fluent french and English. What if I had listened to that specialist? I would love to track her down and have a long discussion.
We can never put limitations on a child. Never. Your daughter will far exceed any expectations you have. Dream with her. dream for her. Grasp any opportunity that falls in both your paths. I know she will have a great life and that you will see all that your hard work and love have accomplished. You are an exceptional Mom. I know the days can be very long, not always easy but I am rooting for you both.God Bless you!
Lacey hopefully you don’t know anyone like Jax. When we speak of her track record we are speaking of her complete lack of discernment when using her first born child Ashlee as a storyline. And one that she wanted to come out looking like the long suffering whoa-is-me momma. Take note of all the on camera pitty tears Jax got to shed. As the mother of a daughter about Ashlee’s age I can tell ya that I would never ever ever exploit her young adult “issues” to make myself look like a martyr. Mother’s that do this to the extent that Jax did with Ashlee are guilty of emotional Munchhausen by proxy. They get something out of making dern good n sure their kids are emotionally crippled…..sympathy and attention and all them “I just don’t see how you handle it, Jax” tsk tsks that people are all to willing to heap on her over the Ashlee situation. So its not too much of a jump regarding Nicholas that she would use it in the same way. You can’t see it Lacey, because you may be to pure of heart to know that women like that exist in this world.
We don’t know her from what we see on tv. She went on to show what a teenage daughter who wouldn’t listen to her parents was like. Ashlee was spoiled and then started making her parents feel guilty for not giving her everything she wanted. Excuse me. She is a teen. The more you give them the more they think they are entitled to. She wanted them to buy her a car, get her an apartment and pay for it all. They did tough love, just like most parents do. Apparently it worked. Ashlee is self suppporting and living in California right? Was that not to be shown on tv? Is that child abuse? No thats reality. I am not going to hand money to my kids. They need to get up and earn their way.
No I wouldn’t show my child’s struggles on tv. Period. Most mothers know how to bring out the best in our children and highlight that.
But you are not on a reality show. She is. As a family, including her real dad, they made the decision to show that. I applaud them for showing it. Did the results work, well apparently it did. She is now living in California, working and paying her own way. Wasn’t that what both of her parents wanted all along?
I think its bullcrap. I think her parents are bullcrap. And filming it didnt help it along anymore than just regular ole life would have. All it did was humiliate that child. Even her scenes this season were designed to show her in a bad light. The gas. BTW I think she was tweeting last night form Texas. Aint that were her daddy had a house that burnt to the ground?
http://youtu.be/wmin5WkOuPw
Well thats your choice. I think when a parent refuses the emotional blackmail, the child is going to learn to get up and support themselves. Oh so she went to Texas, she has a dad, step mom and brothers and sisters there right? I believe the charges on Matt Holmes were dropped.
It was just very ignorant of Jax to allow the “left the gas on” dialoged given her daddy’s house just burnt down under suspicious circumstances. These talking points are planned out ahead of time. I am saying that Jax could have and should have handled these issues with Ashlee off camera but she didn’t because… she needed a storyline. And it WAS Ashlee, now it will be Nick. Sad.
IMO Jax was willing to sacrifice Ashlee’s well being for her own fame. Perhaps I am different but I viewed Ashlee as a typical teenager with typical rich white girl problems. Ashlee was thrust into a new tight knit family in NJ after tossing around with Mommy for quite a few years. Probably not the most stable life but probably not the worst either. Suddenly she is an environment where there are rules and restrictions and lots of extended family . The new family can be a blessing and a curse. Ashlee was well aware that Mommy was pregnant when Chris married Jax. That isn’t so terrible but it probably caused a bit of embarrassing talk that Ashley absorbed. Also not the best example when you want to put the hammer down on a teenager. Again IMO Jax suddenly has 3 kids to focus on and a huge family to please and get along with plus a brand new marriage. She took the easy way out and jettisoned Ashley. I don’t think people fully grasp that 18 year olds today do not have the maturity we (speaking as a 50 something) had at 18. Ashley has tons of potential but Jax wasn’t willing to put the hard work in that it takes to be the combination of parent/mentor/advocate. I see the same thing with Nic. Talk is cheap. Do the hard work. Ashley did not deserve to be Jax sacrificial lamb and now Nic? I hope it isnt so ! However until she gets off twitter and RHONJ I’m not buying anything Jax is selling. Ive heard the most rotten things about Ashley and lots of applause for Jax. For what? Throwing her child away after making Ashlee look like a loser and an azzhole?
And seeing a sudden diffrent set of standards between her and the Manzo kids who never really have got out on their own and still suckle at mommas teet had to be aggravating. Especially to have Lauren and Albie talk down to her the way they did ON CAMERA. Like I said, I would never forgive someone doing my child that way. Jax dont give a damn as long as Jax can “think she did pretty well” bottom line.
I wouldn’t go on a reality show and I sure wouldn’t allow my kids to be on there but these people have all chose to do that. The Giudices, Gorga’s, Wakiles, Laurita and the Manzo children are adults so its their choice. Ashlee was 18, she had also signed the paperwork.
And I dern sure wouldn’t let her step cousins act like they were so much better than my daughter when clearly they are actually worse. Nor would KimG be able to get with in arms reach of me after being seen on camera encouraging Danielle to press charges over a ridiculously stretching it “death threat’
ITA Made. with all you said. Ashlee now has a juvie record for defending her mom. Why was Ashlee encouraged to be a part of that hot mess anyway? Don’t wimp out and mealymouth around ! Cancel the phone , cancel the internet and cook dinner with Ashley. The Jaqueline modus operandi “Do as I say but not as I do”. never works. I’m sorry but Ashlee was compared unfavorably to the ManzoBrats , Danielle’s darling girls and that is simply not fair. Ashley was the sacrificial lamb for Jax Bravo ambitions.
Haven’t we seen something on this SH site or on one of the sites listed in the blogroll to the effect that Ashley’s got the good on her mother and Chris, so that’s why they coddle her and buy her SUVs, etc.? If memory serves me correctly….
Ashlee wanted her mom and Chris or her dad to pay for her way for the rest of her life. She didn’t want to work or pay her way. She was spoiled. They all spoiled her. Don’t we all spoil our kids way way too much? She wanted the new SUV, the apartment in New York and the hand out for money. She wanted to party and play and not work. Ok given the option, what teen wouldn’t take that deal. I was proud of them to say Enough. You are done. Most parents don’t. Most parents give and give and give to the self entitled children.
I always love the bad Ashley scenario while Jax wears the saintly mother mantle. Quite sure Ashlee probably earned money from RHONJ. I also get a real kick out of how we all think Ashlee is suddenly mature cuz Mom kicked her out. I would bet dollars to donuts that Ashley still calls every month when the rent is due. Cali isn’t Mayberry folks and this isn’t 1950, lots of traps for immature young women to fall prey to. Ahem! really a Convention girl in Vegas? is that the resume any of us want for our daughters? I had to fight tooth and nail to keep mine in college and on the straight and narrow. We hit a few bumps here and there but I’m proud of the results. Both college Grads , one with a JD and the other working on her doctorate. You have to hang tight and do the hard work not throw them away.
Oh my goodness, if what the Lauritas did to Ashley was “tough love,” then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. They DID get her a car, they DID let her live rent-free in their home, they DID (like so many wimpy parents today) allow her to talk trash to them (Ashley disgracefully telling her Mom to “shut up,” etc.), they DID allow her to get crappy grades/not do homework (then reward her with a car). How do you think it is possible that Ashley would be “self-supporting,” especially in a high cost of living state like California? Where do you think Ashley is earning an income to support that SoCal lifestyle (including such luxuries as tattoos and plastic surgery)? The answer is, she’s not. She couldn’t hold down a job if her life depended on it (and it doesn’t, because her parents give her money); remember when she could barely make an appearance at her “internship” with that bottom-feeding scum Lizzie Grubman? I still wonder what would entice a person to associate with that human piece of garbage Grubman? Was that Jacqueline’s idea or Ashley’s? I still remember when Grubman got into a pissy booze and coke-fueled rage and plowed her SUV into a huge crowd, severely injuring many people:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003003/Road-rage-celebrity-PR-guru-Lizzie-Grubman-sued-400-000-staff.html
Thats not true. Therapy has changed as has the diagnosis. I have a loved on who is on the spectrum and has a very loving relationship with his family, playdates, birthday parties, playgroups, swimming lessons, gymnastics. You and I do not know exactly what Nic’s diagnosis is. I have seen pictures of Nic recently and he is arm in arm with his cousin and smiling at the camera. I am very sorry about your nephew but a diagnosis is not nor should it be the end of the world for any child. You cannot generalize or automatically assume the worst. The statistics for remediation are improving as progress is made with early intervention programs. Of course any diagnosis is shattering but a commitment to advocating for the child is key. It is difficult to view Jax as a genuine person with an autistic child since her commitment seems to revolve around twitter.
I am not being hateful to you but you add to the problem autistic children face when you focus on the negatives rather than the possibilities and capabilities. Perhaps an autistic child cannot communicate as well as we can but they are still valuable human beings . It sickens me when these beautiful valuable children are seen only in light of their deficiencies. We all have a responsibility to ensure awareness and that includes not sweeping them into a category. Generalizations are a disservice to these beautiful valuable children.
Each child is different. It depends on the severity of the autism. My nephew has a very severe autism. No one knows on how sever Nicholas’s autism is. There is many autistic children who are high functioning and able to participate in alot of activities, there is also many who will not. All I was saying was that it wasn’t fair to accuse these parents of fraud because their child is autistic. I just thought it was an extremely sad post. Thanks for your concern. My nephew has an amazing and supportive family and neighborhood.
The problem is that the Lauritas have used endorsements from questionable, unnamed sources to promote BLK water. So of course when Jax announces her son’s diagnosis people are going to be suspicious. Coincidental? Maybe. After the bankruptcy fraud people are bound to question the diagnosis. Only time will tell.
That is what has me convinced that Jax bought an autism diagnosis for the sake of a storyline and perhaps even planned it since its awfully convenient that her mouthy daughter who would call shenanigans on it is outta the house. I would say that Ash is still getting hush money thrown her way. Just a feeling I have based on the bullcrap that this fambily has pulled. The BLK cures autism horsechit was the topper.
The recent pictures of Nic have aroused my bull chit detector. The BLK Water is a bit to convenient timing all the cure claims with the announcement. Ashlee is outa sight but I would lay odds she is getting paid to lay low.
We will KNOW without a doubt if we are right or not if Jax returns next season and her storyline is Nic’s autism. Seems to me that if there was a phantom momma that made this claim that Albie would have already produced her by now given how quickly people saw through that. But really at this point its too late for all dat. They were done caught being dopey. Maybe this will be chapter in Don’s book. The Audacity of Dope.
I also believe the autism diagnosis may be a fraud (or incorrect). This is not being disrespectful to children with autism, this is me not being gullible and being suckered in by the child’s mother, Jacqueline, because she is shady and amoral.
I think that is pretty sad. You might not like these people but it sad that you have to be that hateful
I’m not being hateful, just observant. Rather than calling me “hateful,” could you possibly be more specific in your response/argument so that we could have a reasoned and factual discussion?
I just think its pretty hateful to call someone who has an autistic child a liar for the sake of lying. It was a hateful comment. I just can’t imagine disliking someone so bad for a different opinion. I personally feel for someone who has an autistic child. I have a nephew who is autistic and no one that I know of would claim to have an autistic child if they didn’t. We are talking about a child.
People do terrible things to their children all the time see Casey Anthony. She killed her kid, stating that fact does not demonize every parent who has ever lost a child to a swimming accident. See where I am going with this? You want to see the good in everybody Lacey and that is admirable for sure. We are just saying that Jax has a track record for using throwing her children (Ashlee) under the bus for the sake of a storyline. I dont think Stacey is being hateful at all.
You are comparing Jax to Casey Anthony..Really? I got bitched out for saying Christ because it offended people., But You know what Accusing Jax of inventing autism for the sake of attention Offends me There is zero proof she is doing that I wish people would stop doing its Offensive to me as a Woman and someone who was a Mother.
Lisa. I really didnt know that it offended you on the same level as taking the Lords name in vain. I wont say it again.
Its Ok Mrs MP, It just struck a nerve. I dont like telling others how to post because I dont like being told what to post and how. I understand People suspect the Autism story But Jax is a Mother she clearly loves her children, she isnt a Sociopath who would lie about something like autism in a her child for personal gain. It just struck a nerve is all.
Mothers are not perfect and some are evil for sure, but IMO despite all her faults thats not Jax. I have sat on my hands mostly here when I read some of the things people write here because we do have free speech But on the other hand this is a popular blog so we should be care at what we post eps when we throw accusations around as fact. We all have our Opinions and I am certainly guilty of not being careful either. But these are living breathing people who read this stuff and they have feelings and as bad as i or you think they are and as we post what we think we have to remember Words do hurt.
Sorry for the rambling I certainly going to watch what i say I dont want to offend posters here or people who lurk here from the shows…Man thats gonna hurt when BH starts and she who shant be named is discussed.
Made Post what you want forget what I said
Leaps off Soap box.
I adore you Lisa. I really do.
Right back atcha MP.
Look I have raised 5 children, the youngest being 10 yrs old. We all tend to give our kids way to much and then when they are 18, its like they have to learn to do it on their own. Even thou we raised the older 4 all the same, one of our kids was just like Ashlee.. She believed that we owed her something. At 18 she wanted to maybe go to school, maybe get a job, maybe be up by noon while the rest of the house was out working or in school. Some kids are different. Tough love worked, she was told work or school, if neither, find a place to live. She found the place to live and then had to find a job. It was her wake up. I don’t fault Jacqueline for doing that. She isn’t a bad parent, its reality. I am sure there is people posting here who’s kids are in a much darker place than Ashlee ever was. That is a fact. We can’t judge their parenting by seeing them on a reality show for 60 minutes a week. Thats not even a glimpse of the other 167 hours in the week. In an hour show, we are probably seeing less than 15 minutes per family. I don’t have enough information to judge them.
I dont believe the storyline about ashlee. They didnt do that to grow her up. They did it for a storyline. They still pay her bills. Her buzznet gig aint supporting a CA lifestyle unless she is tweeting from under a bridge somewhere which we all know she aint. Just like Don’s kids, mommy n daddy pay their way.
I have not seen one magazine or Teresa fan providing a copy of a check for anything for any of the Manzo kids and trust me, if mom and dad were paying the rent, there would be copies of the checks all over. California isn’t anymore expensive than the east coast. She is very capable of working and living without having to be supplemented by anyone. Just because someone tweets something, is it true? Maybe they do it just to see what all the haters have to say
I would say they deposit the money in her account. So “checks” are not an issue. My daughter year old lives at home works and goes to school. We put money in her account all the time. The cost of living around here is was lower than Ca or East Coast and still my daughter cant afford to get her own apartment without mommy n daddy help. We aint doing that she can live here as long as she is in school but she knows it aint gonna get crazy… meaning we aint in for no protracted professional student situation. 4 years is a plenty.
I have never supported my adult children. The started working at 16, 2 of them younger doing lawns and chores for neighbors. 3 of 5 have graduated from college and worked while going to school. 1 chose to go to work full time and take a year off before going on to school. The last is 10 yrs old. My kids have been taught to pay their own way. I will help them with college tuition and books but its our belief that if they assist in paying for their schooling, it will be respected more. I agree with you on allowing them to live at home while going to school There is no reason for them to stack up student loans for board and room, thats crazy. I also agree that there is no reason to be a professional student. I do not believe that the Manzo’s pay for an apartmet for their kids. Til I see something in writing that says they did, it didn’t happen. There are enough people out there who know these people who would provide that info in a heartbeat.
BLK aint making enough money for them to afford their lil humble abode.
I seen a display in a grocery store on the west coast last week and I was shocked. It was selling for 2 bottles for 3.00 and people were walking out with alot of it. I was laughing so hard. I also didn;t buy any.
You should have snapped pictures of the west coastians with armloads of BLK water.
It was hilarious.
And since that is the deal with my daughter it would be crazy of me to turn on the tears and act all put out by it for that sake of cameras like Jax did. Leaving her daughter with a WTH look on her face.
I don’t “dislike” any of these women because I don’t even know them. I’m not emotionally invested or attached to them–that would be really creepy–this is simply entertainment. It goes without saying that I have the utmost compassion for parents of children with challenges. You say that “no one you know” would fudge the truth about an autism diagnosis. There’s the key! We are not talking about the regular people you and I know; we are talking about wacko, narcissistic, exhibitionist freaks who are on reality shows, whose lives seem to revolve around Twitter, bankruptcies, lazy good-for-nothing kids, cheating spouses, fraud, and dependence on wine and Xanax. I’m clearly not attacking Jacqueline’s child–quite the contrary. Back in the day before there were reality shows, these dramas were called soap operas.
The criticism isn’t of the child, it is of Jax. Saying that you wonder if Jax is being truthful is not attacking the child. I think he most likely is autistic, but I question Jax’s motives in releasing info in the manner and at the time she did. I also thought the Sparkle charity event thing was dubious, as from a post here there seemed to be a lot of profits going to the Manzo/Lauritas, not the charity.
This is a reality show. Reality mean real people, real children, real illnesses. A soap operas is a scripted fantasy with ficticious characters. Those are two completely different formats. I agree this is entertainment, I agree its creepy to become so attached and consumed that its no longer entertaining but sad. In Jersey, I really don’t have a favorite. I tend to see they all have faults. I don’t like Teresa but I would never bully or badmouth some who does. Even the far fetched theories are funny but I just don’t think its right to say that the parents have created an illness to get sympathy. There are parents out there who would do that in a heartbeat. Do I think the Laurita’s have, no.
@ laceyschatting Curious: Do you live in the same place that Kelly Bensimon does? Do you live in the land of unicorns and rainbows? Have you ever heard of Munchausen by Proxy?
Google it, Bing it, whatever, just look it up. Just because someone has a, possibly, ill child (ill doesn’t seem to fit autism but my vocab is lacking right now) does not make them a saint! By your estimation ANYONE, even Hitler, would be above reproach if they had a child with an affliction (there’s my vocab kicking in).
First of all we all have opinions and that is why we are posting. If it is the opinion of some or the opinions of others then they have a right to post without being chastised . Please read carefully with discernment and do not generalize what you read and misinterpret what others post. We know each other posting style by now and hurling accusations about attacking children is wrong and shady IMO. Please we all know by now how genuinely kind Made and others are. Where is this coming from?
I am also alittle sick of being told that I cannot base my opinions on someone’s parenting based on 60 minutes of a Reality Show. If that is your opinion so be it. You are not the blog police so stop with the chastising.
Thanks! Ive seen Munchhausen by Proxy up close. If you think people don’t use their children for attention and for financial gain think again. Google it. happens more frequently than you can imagine.
I’d like to be following this conversation, but it’s so hard when the comments are now so skinny — there is literally one word per line.
LMAO The Lauritas child is autistic. I guess if it makes you feel better to say they are lying, go ahead but we both know the truth. You could no more diagnois autism from a chair in your living room than I could perform an appendectomy.
I dont think anyone is saying MBP dosnt exist of course it does But Arm chair Diagnosis
by people who no nothing more about a family but the what they see on TV is dangerous IMO eps since this show is Heavily scripted.. I get told all the time here what to say, what words to say and not say No one bats a eye matter of fact people join right in and tell me what I am allowed to say.yet When its done to them Its A FEDERAL CASE. It tiresome. I get offended when I see women calling other women whore and slut based on nothing more then what they read on a unreliable website like Famewhoragas.(I do think SH is the most reliable Blog) and a overweight person called a Fat pig and degraded because people dont think she is skinny enough I dont tell those people not to use those words I just SMH. Like I said i am not innocent here and trying to Not be that way Words hurt even words on a blog When those things are said about Lauren I think wow They must think that about me to I am fat, I dont always stick to my diet and dont exercise as i should geez i must be a fat pig to.
.. Funny thing is if jac stayed at home didnt say a word about autism and went about her business she would be cold,uncaring and in denial and cursed because she dosnt reach out and help others.
IMO Whore,slut,fat pig and retard and other words are just as bad as cuss words.
I am sorry my post seems to be all over the place but My thoughts are pretty random today.
@ Lisa A) We have more insight into these women than their therapists, if they have them.
B) I have never made any of those types of statements about any of these women and you making your reply to me insinuates that I have. I would appreciate a retraction.
Well you are not going to get it sorry I was making a general statement I think it was pretty clear,
Lisa- I think Lauren is a pig because she is nasty and foul-mouthed, not because she is fat. I think when you go on tv and act like a pig, (calling other women d-ckheads), well, you’ve got it comin. As for whores n sluts, I think that comes from Mego acting slutty in general, and having multiple people speaking out about her past.
@Stacy. name calling is not cool. Chastising? Not cool either. I enjoy your posts>
Lisa I have no clue what you look like.I hate to disappoint but I don’t give it much thought. Not because I don’t like you but because I like you for you not how you look or don’t look or weigh or don’t weigh. Many of us have discussed our weight struggles and our issues. IMO the conclusion is that pretty outside does not always match pretty inside. If we have to be chastised for what we all as adults knowingly choose to post then I assume as adults we are willing to take responsibility for that as well or we would never hit the reply button. I stand by my posts. These are opinions and I wasn’t aware that we had to provide documentation or outside sources to bolster our opinions. I am not here to convince anyone of anything. Either my opinion is valid to you or doesn’t .
wth is jax on the phone for that much time everymorn? Take care of your kid!
My Mom and I would talk every morning for around an hour while we cleaned the house and got the kids ready for the day. It didn’t mean my 4 kids were neglected. I just had company while I got everything done. Not everything about Jacqueline has to be a negative.
Yes it does.
Oh you are a sassy one!
lol. I am just funnin with ya. But seriously she DOES need to spend more time with Nicholas. She can farm the conceived out of wedlock one off on her nanny though.
Assface is being a disrespectful piece of shit to her elders again? What else is new. Love Lil’ Kim for putting her in her place!
Lauren is still unhealthy. She’s still fat even with her lapband because she didn’t change her lifestyle or her diet. Which is how you ACTUALLY get healthy and lose weight properly. I’m not buying that she “works out for 2 hours a day” for a minute. She will gain all that weight back and she deserves it.
Never mind, I guess that wasn’t Lil’ Kim.
That might not b Iil Kim but the real one has tweeted that she loves Teresa
Lauren tweets about how she can’t eat this or that but yet she drinks like a fish (example WWHL last night, promoting a pub crawl with her, her brothers and Vito for $15) so IF and that’s a big IF she is cutting back of what she eats she is drinking her calories even more than if she were eating a sensible diet. W/lapband you can’t eat very much but it doesn’t really change your fluid intake.
Exactly. Lauren doesn’t have an athletic bone in her body. I don’t believe she works out to that extent either. Also, people don’t understand that a lot of “thin” people are actually fat, meaning that they appear to be slender, but they have a high body fat percentage and deadly high cholesterol. If a “thin” person never exercises, eats crap, drinks a lot, and has bad genetics, they can have the same risk of heart attack, diabetes, etc. as a person weighing 300 lbs.
saw lapband the pig on wwhl, yea, i’m drunk, sounded like an idiot. so crass.
i guess if that pig needs booze to mellow her bitter ass out, drink up piggy,
you will always be a pig. just like her mother.
and who the f did caro hair and make up??? omg. won’t be going to barf-face for any services.
i sound as crazy as these bitches.
good night baby jesus.
Why they haven’t put JAXASS away is beyond me. She is sick, they can’t see that. Lauren STFU until you amount to something. Ashlee stay away. You go Dina, enough is enough.
Jaquelines face during the reunion, all three parts, had some smirk grin the whole time, if she wasnt yelling, she was stating mean things under her breath, or giving smirk smug looks…she kept it up thru all three parts, she really seemed to be having manic issues. Is this girl bi polar?
What is this Email Dina allegedly wrote saying Nic having Autism is Karma Is that true? was the Email produced? If she did write it shame on her.
Wasn’t that rumor started by a MeGo mouthpiece?
I dunno People are tweeting about it thats why I am asking. I cant believe Dina would say such a thing about her nephew.
If you can’t substantiate it then why do you assume it is possibly true?
I dont know if its true, geez I am asking about it
Christ. Its the first I have heard of it. All I said is I cant believe Dina would say such a thing….Damn.
I get it. It just seems like a Johnny Appleseed move. It’s not a big deal, but since I never saw that rumor get proven true, I wanted to chime in to let anyone reading your comment know that is wasn’t a fact. It’s only fair.
Thats all I was asking if it was true is all I wasn’t trying to pass it on. Try asking next time and not jumping on me.
LOL.. i usually jump on you.. since you do piss me off.. but i’d probably think you were great in person and have a cup of coffee with you.. i just never agree with you at all.. BUT you were only asking a question… which we all do..
I am sorry i piss you off. But people here piss me off to.
I love your commentary, Lisa. I frequently agree with you but don’t have the stomach, anymore, for the way some posters (a few) disagree. Even when I do disagree with you, you are never disagreeable. For example, I like Dina. I saw your question as an honest question. I’ve never seen you stir the pot for the sake of stirring the pot.
thanks I came here to ask because everyone here is up on all the gossip, I saw it on Twitter and came here to verify the story, then I had to duck for cover.
Take heart CB and lisa! BH is about to start and we’ll all agree again! At least about “She who shall not be named”!
I can’t believe it either. Doesn’t sound like something Dina would ever say.
I’m with ya Lisa… I have a VERY hard time believing it. Haven’t heard about the email though so… Unless SH posts something I’d just doubt it entirely.
Never have seen it anywhere. Pure, vindictive rumor. Stop passing it on.
I am not passing it on Damn, I came here to ask if it was true Damn People I asked about it here because You all know more then me. Sheesh.
Maybe using Christ as a curse word is how you usually talk, but could you drop it here? It’s coarse and offensive. Thanks.
Umm ok. @@
Thank you Lisa.
So When should I expect whore,slut,bitch and other expletive to stop being used here.
Be equal opportunity in the dietie’s names you use as curse words maybe, if it is very, very important to you to do that.
No its not, but I was attacked for asking a Legit Question. And accused of “passing on a rumor” which i wasn’t. Sorry I got a bit testy.
@Lisa- Well, so many of the housewives ARE those things, but none of them are Christ.. lol ; )
HMMM I dunno bout that some people think Tre is a saint it seems
coarse and offensive???????
have you watched rhonj?
Candice, did you notice on the “lost” footage that they let the gd word go un-bleeped outa Don’s mouth? Yet they bleep the f word that rhymes with maggot. This drives me batty.
MP, I didn’t see it, but given Bravo’s position on things, doesn’t suprise me. Chuckie probably got brownie points with Ms. Andy for her Judeo/Christian cursing. The only think positive I can say about Chuckie is at least she isn’t a pretend Christian, like MeGo, with her “thank you, Jesus” act.
Candace and Kel, thank you for trying to explain why Christian diety curse words are offensive to so many of us.
Similar to Mego stating Teresa called her daughter Ugly.. ITS AN AGENDA PEOPLE.. they are trying to engage Dina.. and have her lose it.. THEY HATE SHE IGNORES THEM.. I hope to God she continues to walk away and not give in to their LOW LOW BEHAVIOR AND GOSSIP..
sHE never would!!!
Everybody relax! Lisa was just asking a question!
Thank you — jeez louise!
Lisa, I haven’t heard about that, but I would think Dina isn’t so dumb as to put that in writing. But it is probably a rumor from Jax, she likes to start rumors for sympathy, I think that’s her past time. She’s probably sittin at home drinkin wine and scrapbooking all the thoughts and rumors from her imaginary friends at this moment..
Thank you for answering. Thats all I wanted to know.
To add to Kel’s response if I am not mistaken the rumor was started by that Queenz person on Twitter who is definitely from the Gorga/Laurita camp.
Makes sense.
i thought jax spent all her time researching beauty tips? or was it autism?
yes? no?
Ok your last line had me spit out my drink. That was great. Thanks for the chuckle!
It’s only a rumor. It was started by Queenz of Media on twitter who’s very anti-Teresa. Supposedly there’s a Melissa/Marco sisters connection. There’s absolutely no proof that the email exists.
thanks for answering
How sad. I agree. If she did that is about the most hateful thing I have seen
Dina has stayed quiet long enough~ she has listened to Caroline and Alcoholic-bi-polar Jacqueline sugar coat the REAL TRUTHSss behind the rift!!!!! Caro&Alcoholic wants everyone to believe Teresa has caused it all!!!!! Nah No Way!!!!!! Any Bright individual can see through the Rose Colored Glasses they want you to wear!!!!! Ashlee needs to stay out of it and especially STAY the hell away from her mother!!!! The apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree!!!!! And Lauren need not be involved either!!!!! Shame on Caro for allowing her to be the subject of her screen time,in the manner she has been. As a trainer- yes it is possible to lose weight the natural healthy way, but it takes time and can be very discouraging’ I think she looks great!! Her outburst regarding the RHONJ is making her ugly!!! She needs ta shuuushhhit! As long as Lauren adapts a healthy lifestyle, works out a min of 4 times a week and eats healthy”portion control “she can maintain and live a normal life -without obsessing over food. She is quiet pretty and looks nothing like her mother!!!!! It’s about damn TIME!!!!! Dina set the record straight!!!!!!
Dina has stated their beef goes back to season 1. So I think Jac taking danielle’s side began the rift. 2. I think jac gave danielle the info about lexi’s dad to use against dina. 3. also chris was engaged to dina’s bff and then got jac prego while still in that relationship, and jac was a stripper. so that probably didnt sit well with dina.Lastly jac can NEVER keep her freakin mouth shut and THATS why dina is pissed at jac and in extension chris. I think her issue with doncaro stems from business..not exactly sure what business though.
That’s all right, and I also read the business dispute was over the Ladybug charity, supposedly Caro and another sis started it with Dina, but she took off with it on her own…
Jacqueline set Teresa up when they were speaking on her deck. Don Caro just happened to show up. They ambushed her. Then Teresa, upset, goes to Dina’s as I would in the same situation. And Don Caro is hurt by her going to her friend’s house? I guess Dina and Tre didn’t get the memo that Caroline dictates who you can talk to when upset.
Teresa lied. She said she went to Dina’s cause it was on the way home. Its not. She went to cause a problem.
She went to talk to a friend as she has every right to do. Dina understood probably better than anyone the Bravo set up > I think it was a very healthy choice and respectful as well. Teresa is loyal and knew it would not go any further than Dina. .
It is on the way home Dina lives around the corner from Jac and Caroline
Unbelievable!
I think it was all about stealing Jamie’s wedding, but Dina must not blame him she only doesn’t talk to two out of the eleven siblings. A little off topic, I do not know how to tweet, but has anyone on twitter ever asked Andy where Jaqs blog is?
I don’t tweet either. It would be interesting to hear him explain where her blog is. One of her little power plays again, most likely.
Ms SH did today — not sure if he replied.
i joined twitter, but i don’t tweet because i never really figured it out. i just wish that we were told exactly why there is all this anger and animosity, and how teresa is involved. on the show, all we hear is that caroline and dina are not talking and teresa is to blame. now we hear that dina and chris are also not talking. no one really knows why. it’s unfair to put this drama out there and then not let us know what it is really about. i think andy should have the 3 of them on his show and we should hear why they are not talking. they don’t have to resolve their issue(s) there, but at least we’d know, from their mouths, what this is about instead of all this stupid speculation.
Same here Angry… I have no followers so I’m pretty lame and pathetic in Twitter-verse, but I joined to chime in occasionally
Lol Lisa, but saints can’t walk on water. Maybe make saucey meata-balls and make your hair super shiney, but that’s it.
hahahaha Good one.
Wasn’t Jax exposed as the “source” for negative articles @ LynneChicago about Dina/Project Ladybug and tax evasion?
Yes!!! Jacko is so despicable!!! how she sleeps at night amazes me.. i’m so shocked watching her from season 1.. how conniving and vindictive this chick is.. amazing!!! Can you imagine trying to hurt a charity on top of all this??? then the next minute she is wondering why people DON’T RETURN HER CALLS?? LOL… Straight Jacket anyone???
That’s rich coming from Jacqueline if it is true!
Lauren Manzo needs a good ass kicking from one of the Paterson locals in front of that Kentucky Fried Chicken joint her Daddy Fat Al loves. And no lapband, getting a lapband at age 24 when you don’t meet the medical protocols is not a positive story.
Thanks for bringing up the medical protocols–I was wondering about that myself. Thought it was supposed to be used for the morbidly obese, which LapBand Lauren did not appear to be.
Well, it sure isn’t recommended to lose 35 lbs. One can find unscrupulous doctors anywhere I suppose.
You have to have a BMI of 40 or 35 with a co morbidity, There is no Min weight loss need standard. The FDA sets the standard. Gastric Bypass has the more strict requirements, Lap band is less strict. Lauren is short I bet she did have the required BMI to get the surgery.
You are completely right Lisa. Gastric bypass is very dramatic and I am not sure if some know but immediately after gastric bypass most people who were type #2 diabetic are no longer plagued with that illness. There are medical reasons for both procedures. None of us are qualified to say who should and shouldn’t have either procedure. I still say kudos to Lauren and anyone else who has the procedure for health reasons.
Just this:
When Dina twittereded “never means any harm” I instantly started humming this tune. Am I the onliest one?
The entire cast of RHNJ all seem to be either crazy, or a crook, a thief or a liar…. that includes Dina. She can try and “tweet” and comment from the sidelines but if one were to dig in her dirt they would find just as many skeletons as they find elsewhere.
Exactly.
When your biggest accomplishment in life is winning a Rachael Ray meatball contest or getting a lap band, you look pathetic. As my kid says, they are a waste of skin & oxygen.
I think Caroline and Jaqueline are counting on Dina not spilling the beans on whatever is the real reason behind their relationship problems. They know Dina prefers to be private, so they go out in public and speak falsehoods knowing that Dina will not retaliate. But it looks as though Dina is getting fed up with all their baloney and might just put them all in their place, which would be nice. Ashley has no business advising an adult to delete a tweet. That’s just another sign of the times–where children do not respect their elders. Also, when has Ashley ever been the voice of reason? NEVER!
I don’t see anything wrong with her tweets to Dina. Ashley is an adult and she was respectful. I think Dina acknowledged that. It was a conversation between a Aunt and her Niece.
That they had on twitter. A public forum.
For private family matters, the phone is the way to go.
I would agree with picking up the phone and having a conversation. Then again if any of these families could do that they wouldn’t be so dysfunctional. The one exception is Juicy it will just get him in trouble.
Amen.
ITA Candace
Seriously! I don’t get twitter anyway. So very contrived. It’s like when people go on FB or Twitter to tell their significant other they love them. Really? How about a face-to-face. Obviously it’s all show from all sides. Only way to rise above it is to not engage at all. But then, what would we have to chat about? =)
ITA! Seems harmless to me…Ashlee wasnt rude & Dina wasnt either.
Just for your information. Have thought since season one, despite so many viewers thinking Caroline was the “voice of reasom” that she suffered from some kind of personality problem, if not an actual full blown personality disorder. As subsequent seasons have revealed, Caroline truly is a bona fide control freak and it looks to be pretty severe as she just can’t stop butting in with her uneducated obnoxious opinions. One cardinal sign is her children, who seem to fear crossing her and are definitely underachievers, a classic sign of an over controlling mother, who wants so much for their kids, but is afraid to let them make and learn from their own mistakes so tries to control all they do. Watched her do this on a very basic level i.e. in the grocers with Lauren when she argued about a milk purchase and with Dina, who’s quite a bit younger than Caroline, when they went house hunting. First time she tried it with Teresa, a head shot followed of Tre saying she didn’t need Caroline’s advice and input. Wonder if when that later aired, how indignant Caroline probably felt and strike one for Teresa. We often see bits and pieces of personality disorders in most humans, but the extent of it in Caroline, who, by the way, doth protest too much that she is NOT a bully, just confirms viewer opinion. Alienation from people and even from those you love is often the end result of Obsessive/Compulsive Personality Disorder as only weak brained people like Jacqueline fall under the bullies control. and become their pawns. Get a flashback of Caroline drowning Jacqueline out by talking simultaneously and shouting over her during the reunions shows. OCPD is not to be confused with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder which manifests itself in various behaviors such as shopping, sexual behaviors, reckless choices, etc. Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder is separate from this and results in know it all, bullying behavior that destroys relationships when the object of the control refuses the advice and suggestions of the controller. Just look at several of Caroline’s relationships with her siblings. Not good. .
Excellent insight! Thanks, gramalot
On the other hand, Caroline may not have a personality disorder. She may just be a trifling, superficial, uneducated, small-minded idiot.
@ Stacy ….with a personality disorder! Lol! Back in the day we just called them @ssholes and were done with it! Oh, and we would warn our friends, “don’t bother, they’re an @sshole”. Their actions were not celebrated nor were they feted in any way. It seems the more narcissistic you are, especially on Bravo, the more they love you. Those that tend to be on the real side of real, like Teresa and Juicy, are discounted and ridiculed. Loving parents who have Halloween parties instead of hittin’ the clubs in inappropriate costumes or making homemade tomato sauce with their aging parents -v-having adult frat house pool parties with children present or starting fist fights at their child’s Christening -v- wonderful parties for their friends and family where love and good will are exchanged. Yeah, Teresa and Juicy are the weird ones, the evil ones. Give me a break.
Just wanted to leave some information that was given to me last night from a “friend” in NY, seems that the Polls on WWHL are being “Swayed” by some very suspious individuals in some very questionable ways. I was told to check out @OhsoFab_Events, @JoeyFortman and (none other then) @kimpirella….seems there is some kind of sheme or scam going on amongst the Marco sisters through twitter and such…..Wow, these three Marco sisters (Kim, Lysa and Melissa) are more like the three witches from the movie Hocus Pocus!!!!
OhsoFab is Tina LaMorte. She used to be on that show Whose Wedding is it Anyway.
If it was anyone but Caro you might assume her relationships w/siblings aren’t close because some live out of state , that sort of thing. But this is Carowhine so… I tend to assume it’s something else. The one thing a lot of viewers (including me) missed the first two seasons was how much Caro tries to judge people, even her “friends”. & one thing I’ve learned about narcissistic personalities over the years, you see these friendships that last for 10 years or more end quickly & in a really ugly way , as soon as the narcissist starts having problems in the presonal life. They try to force people to take “sides” (the only way they can view it) & some of the simple minded will of course. ? But when someone with their own mind refuses to, no matter how nicely, it turns ugly. They try everything from spreading rumors to name calling to trying to (fake) laugh off their problems & will sit around plotting against their old “friend” just out of lacking the ability to control their own problems. You see it time & again in some of these real life crime stories. & criminologists say it’s all related to the narcissistic personality disorder. If you disagree with them , it goes straigt to their (false) ego , lacking any real self esteem or sense of self, they sort of fall apart on the inside & try really hard for the sake of appearances to look to others like it isn’t happening.
Here’s the problem with Jaqueline. You can never tell and drunk any of your problems. They are not necessarily malice; it’s that being drunk all the time removes your reasoning and thinking ability. Remember that Seinfeld episode? This is the reason why Caroline has been designated by the family to be Jacqueline’s handler. She knows too much and can’t keep her drunken mouth shut. Btw, is there any documented evidence that Jaqueline son has Autism? I read somewhere else that his condition could be the result of fetal alcohol syndrome. I am not in any way suggesting this to be true and I’m just curious about her son’s official condition for their doctor.
I don’t know why this bugs me so much. FAS does not cause autism, but people keep speculating about Nick and FAS. Even though I get everyone’s criticism of Jacqueline, I think this bit of speculation goes too far. (You are not the first, that’s probably why you think you heard there was a link)
I have to agree. There is no one here who can out and out say that Jacqueline has a drinking problem. Do anyone of you live in her house and know this to be fact? No ofcourse not. She has a child that was born Autistic. For anyone to sit there and say that it was cause by drinking is really sad. Are you saying now that every person who has an autistic child was a drinker and thats what caused it? FAS is absolutely nothing like autism. There is people on this site with autistic children and are you telling them its their fault their child was born with this? Autism is a hateful disease. No one would wish this on any child. Maybe I take it too personal but when you have an autistic child in your family who is 4 yrs old and is so loveable and such a beautiful child, its hard to not take it a bit personal.
It just seems IMO only that people are trying to find a way to blame Jac for Nicks Illness
Autism not her fault FAS is her fault. The FAS speculation is on Twitter and FB and has been for a long time. Maybe Im being hormonal this evening but I Find it sad, where did my bitter self go tonight.
Yeah I have seen it. Some don’t realize that just because someone on twitter or fb says it, its not true. Its amazing to me how some say that some of the housewives are so negative but look at their posts. Its sad because this is a child who has autism. We don’t know the degree. I just don’t understand the hatred. I guess I just try to see the best in people.
I just cringe sometimes at what I read, I have been hard on the Guidices But I have tried to lay off the kids (other then the Field day fiasco) But I have read Richie is a Pedophile, Joe G a rapist , and dont get me started on some of the nonsense I read about Melissa. I think my hormones are ina upraor today and making me Miss Sensitive.
Up roar even.
OMG who would say that. I guess no one realizes that what you post is like your footprint. I kind of think it shows what is in your sole. We can all lightly make fun but still, at the end of the day you are what you SAY. I am not a Teresa fan, I was but I have changed. Not a Dina fan, never have been. If it weren’t for the dynamics of all the women, there wouldn’t be a show. I really think Teresa’s kids have some major issues. If I were the parent, I would pull them off the show. Those kids know way to much about a family conflict that they should know NOTHING about. They have made hateful comments on air about Melissa and those could have only come from their mom. This is causing the conflict to now go into another generation. Kids are so impressionable. Let them be kids.
The irony is rich. So you can call out Teresa’s kids and say they have issues and do not belong on TV. Nut others cannot express their opinion about Jax? Jax motivations? Wow does anyone smell the ripe scent of hypocrisy?
I do.
Thanks Made. I knew you would. As per your comment regarding Casey Anthony wasn’t your point simply that none us can imagine using one’s child for gain or to manipulate others but then we see a “mother” like KC Anthony and should perhaps open our eyes and recognize that parents are clearly capable of using and abusing their kids. IMO that is why children can be abused and taken advantage of in this country because we cannot acknowledge that it happens? Look at Jerry Sandusky and how guilty people were made to feel when they blew the whistle on him. Let me be clear not saying Jax is Jerry Sandusky . Jax just pings some posters BS meter.
That was exactly my point.
I called out Ashlee for her behavior, I have called out all the kids for their poor behavior. Teresa’s kids misbehave but whats sad is whats said about family members around them that they are repeating.
Given the way MeGo threw her nieces under the bus with her bullcrap reason for loosing ..er..um I mean moving from her dream home. I hope Tree keeps her children far away from MeGo. She is mean as a stipped snake. She wont be a boil on the butt of the Gorga fambily for much longer anyways once the facade of money crumbles.
I don’t think she is mean at all. If Teresa was my sisterinlaw I would move too. When Teresa has coached her kids to say such mean things about her on tv, you think they wouldn’t say those things to Antonia and Gino? They said it on tv for all to here. If Antonia and Gino were there, they heard that said about their mom. That is pathetic. No child should ever be brought into a family conflict and no child should ever make remarks like that on tv. Personally, I don’t think any of the kids should be on this show. It ends the problem. There will be no taunting and bullying. Leave teh kids out of it. Melissa has been there for 9 years and 3 kids. She is going no where other than to a new house with her husband and kids.
We shall see.
If Tree was your sister-in-law you prolly wouldn’t have moved hell and half of Geaoria to interject yourself on her show. MeGo is a different animal. And yes even after two solid years of MeGo its STILL Tree’s show.
*Georgia
Oh no Tre kids are perfect angels and when they act out It cute and fun Melissa is the devil who needs to be kept away from the perfect Guidice angels.
At the risk of sounding sanctimonious something I’m known for, I have a problem differentiating between the gang up mentality that everyone hates on the show and what I see at times on the blogs. I comment and Joke but in a non hurtful way. What we observe of these people gives us and insight to their personalities but nothing more. The people calling a young girl a pig because of her weight, a mother a drunk, whore, suffering from Munchhausen, a man a rapist and so much more. We see so little of these peoples lives yet we make all these assumptions in the cruelest way. I’m sorry but we talk about bullying and ganging up on people but it’s common place on all the blogs. I disappear from time to time because for me it seems wrong. I think we can comment and express our opinions with out being being what we accuse the HW on the show of.
At the risk of sounding sassy I just want to clarify Jax doesnt “suffer” from Munchhausen she embraces it.
Bravo Made. Until Ms SH decides to make changes to the blog restricting how we express ourselves then I will continue to state my opinions. Remember the old song “Walk on By”? Feel free to do that with my posts. I can understand the objections and appreciate your point of view . Yet I’m still amazed at the hypocrisy. A couple of posters were agreeing with Lapband calling Teresa a dickhead and repeating it. Now these same posters are offended by others expressing their opinions. You cannot have it both ways. It is as simple as that . The same applies to me.
You officially have the title of Queen of Sass. Let the touring begin!
lol. Working on my wave.
I believe you need a paddle boat to do it right. Nothing but first class of our Queen of sass. LOL.
And break a sweat? that turns my sass into ass every time. I shall need a designated pair of thighs to paddle me around so as not to wilt in the presents of my adoring “fans” Maybee Romain will do it? hahahahaha
Bravo Made.
Lisa, I was trying to find a spot where I could comment to you directly.
Your weight is really unimportant in the big scheme of things. I have a feeling being over weight for you is Armour or protection from the past and avoiding a new relationship. Once you start focusing who you are on the inside and how important it is for you to be healthy so that you will be here to make the world a better place, it will all fall into place. You are a lovely, spirited woman with a generous heart! So rare in today’s world. I hope I wasn’t out of place by giving you my observations.
Nah Cyn you are fine. I am just posting my random thoughts. I read the vitriol on Twitter and Facebook along with various blogs It makes me sad in regards to Lauren, she is now skinny and pretty it apparent she worked hard and instead of saying good job, she is called lazy,ugly a fat pig and accused of taking the easy way out. its made me look at what I have posted about Teresa I have been less then kind AI need to stop. I dont like her but i dont need to make fun of her(god thats going to be hard), she is human so is Lauren Both ladies have feelings Its got to be hard to read that even with a huge weight loss people still call you a fat pig.and for Teresa it must be hard to read she is horrible mother and SIL. Though I do think there are valid negative points on both women making fun of their looks and parenting in Teresa case is wrong Teresa loves her kids and I do think she spends time with them for a working mom.
I raised 4 girls and the hardest part was making them look at the whole person and not focusing in on one thing using it to find fault with themselves. It’s too easy to get trapped in your faults and lose sight of the positive so that life balances out.
Like I said before I have a hard time with everyone being so against the gang up mentality but fall so easily into it on blogs. JMO and I try to keep myself in check. I do have a odd sense of humor that tends to come out at times but I try not to say anything hurtful or demeaning. I still have a healthy fear of my mother reaching out from heaven and smacking the back of my head if I get out of line. LOL!
I think the point here is not that FAS causes autism (because as far as I know, that’s not the case), but that people are wondering if Nicholas has FAS INSTEAD of the autism he’s supposedly been diagnosed with. I don’t have a strong opinion either way as I don’t know these people personally (thank goodness for that!), but I don’t really think people are claiming that he has autism caused by the pregnant mother drinking. Two separate issues.
I admit I know very little about FAS . I have seen posters speculate but don’t have enough info to comment. As for the autism only time will tell and perhaps never. Now after seeing Honey BooBoo hide her face and pretend to snore ala Bubba Jax i will say I am more disturbed to watch the same behavior in a grown woman and a child.
I knew a girl…back when I still lived in Southern California. We met through a mutual friend. I was admittedly taken back by her appearance when we were first introduced. I knew immediately that she had signs of FAS. I say this with love in my heart..that it was sad! Initially, I was startled and my heart was pounding because I so..hoped that my inner reaction was not visible obvious to her. Anyway, depending on the severity of FAS–the affects of the appearance of FAS-varies. My friend was one of the less severe cases. She had to wear a hearing aid-both ears, trouble with eye sight and had some plastic surgery. Her grandfather was a true “Hollywood” legend…black & white movies and he died at a young age. His fame, success and money had allotted her the opportunity to get “top of the line” medical help for FAS. IMO there is no correlation between FAS and Autism.
I’m not sure what I just did wrong so I have to add on to this.
I am honestly concerned about the diagnosis of Nicholas. It is my hope that considering the Laurita’s have the luxury of money, that they have sought out the best doctors possible! I admit I don’t care for Jax and I definitely believe she has psychological problems, but I don’t know that she would intentionally lie about Autism…..I do however question whether or not Nick has been properly diagnosed and I do question his diagnosis of Autism. While Jax is “there” with her children, she’s not REALLY “there.” As in present…in spirit, heart and mind. I think kids have a strong sense of this! I remember the episode where Jax was arguing with Ashlee in the kitchen, when Chris was talking to Ashlee and Jax was playing blocks with Nicholas…screaming at Ashlee. Jax was physically playing with Nick, but it was so obvious she wasn’t really present with her child…..that scene stood out to me even at that time. I just pray for Nicholas…..
That would ensure rapidly becoming a non-sober person.
At KT Girl. IMO you said it very well. Spot on.
No matter how much ppl hate Jac, IMO, there is no way she would lie about her son having autism. Some1 would have already blown the whistle & there is no way that would help out any court cases going on against her or Chris. @originalcyn1-ITA! Tre always accuses others of the things she is actually doing. If she is confronted, she tries to turn it around on some1 else. I just cant see how any1 cant see how much Tre has changed. A total 180° from seasons 1 & 2. And the change is for the worse.
Not to disagree… but I will…. there is definitely a possibility that Jax would lie… In fact, it’s such a STRONG possibility that many are wondering. Especially since the child is labeled as ‘the autistic son’ thanks to his momma. It’s a bid for attention – whether it’s a fabricated bid is another story…
I agree Stlrfan8. I don’t know that Jax did lie, but I definitely think it is a possibility! Jax is a troubled woman and Chris…. well, he just isn’t as involved “hands on” as he should be! The bottom line is….many of us are concerned about Nicholas…..and whether he is getting the care & love a child should be getting…..
I completely disagree about tre calling others out on things she is doing. IMO it is the complete opposite!! If I could of placed a bet in Vegas every time Caro., Jacko, & Mego accused Teresa for something….. that “they” were actually doing…I would be a VERY wealthy woman! In fact, to me and my friends..it became a bit of a joke! We would laugh when ever one of the other housewives, especially Jacko…began to rant about Teresa…we KNEW the others were trying to divert attention from themselves and their new BFF’s! Tre wasn’t trying to turn it around, she just was finally calling them out….on their own game!!!
It was kinda funny the other night on WWHL when Don was on the drinking word was Teresa. Or did I just dream that?
Speaking of twitter..I was just browsing and I noticed that both Caro and BubbaJAX have changed their backgrounds from the Bravo RHONJ promotion pictures to pictures unrelated to RH’s or Bravo. They also don’t call themselves RHONJ in their short description at the top of their pages. Could mean nothing, just thought I’d mention it
Good catch! Thanks for sharing.
No prob FHW! I’m just hoping they are G-O-N-E! Ms. SH has said for a while now that Jac is not coming back so I’m hopeful
Apparently I’m a glutton for punishment because I can’t stop watching RHONJ but something has GOT to change. The only way I’d want to see her back is if the Laurita’s get exposed for the swindlers that they are.
Tre and Dina are successes and fan favorites. Nothin but a lot of JEALOUSY from DonCaro, her spawn and JaxAss. I’ll leave MeGo out of it – she has her own special category (with KatFish).
Dina has freedom to speak. Get over it, Manzoids.
Caroline and Jacqueline have no right to complain about Teresa going to Dina’s off camera when they were stabbing Teresa in the back to her family all season long, on camera. Just sayin..
The one thing you can say for Ashlee & Lauren is that they are still pretty young , if memory serves aren’t they both in their early 20′s? Ashlee hasn’t learned yet that being in with the nerdy crowd not only doesn’t make you cool , but it makes people outside that crowd question why you don’t see that. Now Lauren maybe a little older but, you have to account for her mummy’s influence. Anyone that wrapped up in themselves & their bitterness , how could they have a truely healthy child?
No offense but what I think you mean to say is being “IN” does not make you cool. Conforming to a standard of any kind makes you a poser. Be your own person with your own mind and labels such as cool and nerdy don’t matter..
I agree.
How is Asslee “in” with any nerdy crowd? She is too much of an idiot to be in with nerds. Last time I checked, she only hangs out with lazy losers and dead-beat drunks, just like herself.
Annie, I was thinking the same thing. I’d prefer my daughter be a nerd than a delusional loser any day. I love nerds!
I’m so sick of this drama.All of these women are on the same emotional/social skills level as teenagers. None of them have grown up emotionally. It’s really pathetic imo. It’s time for someone to spill the beans about the problems between Dina/Caroline/Jax. I hope Dina is as sick of it as we are and will finally set the record straight. Then they all need to grow the ef up and stop acting like hormonal teenage girls, especially Jax. In my world, grown women try to be role models for their children…they don’t behave like children.
Do we know if Jax took Nic to only one doctor? As a teacher and parent, I would take my child to the best experts in America for a diagnosis. I’ve taught autistic children and also many children who were drug/alcohol fetal syndrome babies. These drug babies exhibit many behaviors that are similar to autism. With one particular little boy I taught, it took several experts and a year to get a diagnosis because the behaviors often are so similar and “look” like autism to the untrained eye.
I’m not saying Nic isn’t autistic. I’m saying I don’t trust Jacqueline to be in charge of his health care. The woman is obviously emotionally disturbed, an alcoholic and probably a drug addict. Would you trust her to deal with your child’s health and well being? I would not.If he was my son, I would be devoting 24/7 to his care, education and health. I would NOT be on a reality TV show exploiting him, or on Twitter or FB 24/7. All of my time and resources would be spent helping my child. I don’t see this with Jacqueline AT ALL.
She’s more concerned with Teresa’s life than she is the life of her son imo. THIS is why I think many people doubt her sincerity and anything she says about her son.. Add to her bizarre behavior the fact that she’s lied so much in the past, she’s like the LIttle Boy Who Cried Wolf…nobody can believe a thing that comes out of her mouth anymore. I’ve seen parents for 25 years react to children with learning disabilities, mental illness, fatal diseases, and other tragedies and have NEVER seen a mother, father and family behave like this one has.100% of their time and energy should be going into helping that precious little boy, not on the petty, unimportant trivia Jacqueline concerns herself with. His immediate family, extended family and their friends should be doing everything within their power to help him. Jusy sayin……
And very well said Lisbeth. You are spot on and expressed all of our doubts in one summation.
Lisbeth, well said.
I have to say, I really don’t like Ashlee, but I can understand her wanting to stick up for her mom. I thought Dina made the right call in the end to tell people to back off of her. Jacqueline is the problem, but no matter what her daughter is going to love her in all of her insanity. I really hope she doesn’t come back in Season 5. I don’t think I can look at her
mothers. and daughters, the fighting never ends.
Love that who gonna check me boo remark. The nerd comment isn’t regarding the smarter straight A kids in school that got called nerds. I knew some, that were just normal people & some that were odd..etc. I’m talking about the adult version of a nerd. Ashlee isn’t a child anymore. I think she pictures herself as cool & that’s my point , if you chase around after someone like Jax, who I think has become a mess or Carowhine (need I say more) , that type of nerd, the real world nerd, not the schoolyard name calling thing – I’ll leave that to the Caros of the world. I get her mom had problems we didn’t see in the first 2 seasons , but she’s grown now. Time to get on with business. Hating on your aunt or even a former family friend (Teresa) on Twitter?? That’s kiddie stuff & if you’re into past childhood, that’s nerd stuff.