September 18, 2012 5:45 pm UPDATE 9:15 pm
Joe Giudices’s look-a-like brother, Pete Giudice, has announced via his twitter account that he and John Karagiorgis, seen on the last episode of the Real Housewives of New Jersey along with his wife Penny, are not… repeat… NOT friends!
UPDATE: This “announcement”… just like the mysterious reasons behind the intense “dislike” for Tree Joodice by her RHONJ cast mates… doesn’t make any sense!
JohnnyTheGrk made this statement in response to Pete Giudice:
Meg_Brien brought this to the attention of Pete Giudice:
This JTG/PGiudice “spat” just don’t make no sense!! What really happened between JTG and Pete???
Pete Giudice responded… wants JTG to not speak of Pete’s family…
NOTE: One theory on twitter was this: both Sheila Giudice and Penny Karagiorgos are new Housewives on the RHONJ… and the spats have started! This is simply a theory… not a SH theory. It is, however, the only theory that has been raised!
Otherwise, no one knows what the hell is goin’ on! Perhaps we’ll all know the answer on Sunday’s RHONJ!? Who knows?!
(Thanks to SH reader “AM”!!)









John and Penny look sneaky. The probably thought that setting up Mel with Kim D would give them a golden ticket, it probably won’t.
Yeah that makes sense. it kills me how many of these people are perfectly willing to sell there souls to be on a TV show
That makes sense to me, Lisa. I don’t think Penny and Johnny the Greek got what they were hoping for out of this posche fiasco set up. They were hoping Teresa would bite at the salon, and from what I understand they were completely edited out of the next episode when in fact they were an integral part of it. I think they are bitter. I know that they have been campaigning very heavily to get on the show for a year, but I hate to say this because it isn’t nice, but Penny just isn’t camera friendly and how many more hairdressers/cosmetologists do we really need on this show? Epic fail for the Greeks.
Yes I bet they wanted another table flip and then Tourist would come pay homage to the Salon where Tre flipped a table , they could sell postcards and Tours and a package Have your Hair done in the room Tre flipped a table I should be the PR person not Angeleo
lol. The old Tree would have went after Kim with a vat of hot wax screaming “I told you to shut the eff up!!” Perhaps go after Mr. Clean/Voldemort with an electric nail file to the ear. Says “Maybe you didn’t hear me right the first time I told you…DO NOT BRING UP MY FAMILY!!! And wipe that disturbing disingenuous smile off your face before I do it for you with a straight razor and then cauterize the gaping wound with a hot curling iron.” “We ask you for ice! Just bring the dang ice and zip it or I will put YOU on ice!!”
@made- LOL
I might have got a tad out of control there. Is it too obvious that I have indulged in a few homicidal fantasies in a beauty shop myself? So many many implements of torture just right there waiting to be put to use. bahahahahha. Better to get that stuff outa there then to let it rattle around in my brain I always say
I’m just a barker, not really a biter though
YOU need to be on RH, Made! Witty, original , great comedic timing , gorgeous (I saw your avi pic) with just s hint of danger. You could take MeHo out with a glance and Chux would run like a red headed step child.
LOL. As much as I would love to toy with the Don and her spawn I would have to decline. You know I would really really love to give OC Crooksy a good what for though… still not enough to sign up for the show. I’ll just stick to my keyboard commando ways with you and all my friends here at SH.
Then we are the lucky ones and it’s Bravos loss. Altho admit would pay big bucks to see ya give Crooksy what for. Southern gentleman my azz. He couldn’t shine a southern gentleman’s shoes.
I tell you what though, I would be busier than a one legged man in an asskickin contest just bird doggin him till he cried uncle.
Mr. Clean/Voldemort *giggle snort* Love it, MP!
Cute ;P She’s able to stand up for herself but I think deep down she’s alot sweeter than the others. People accused her in the past of being out of touch with the reality of her problems, money – Joe’s (possible) other friend . But I think she’s more of a real person than Koma Mel & much more in touch with reality than ole’ ChuckietheDon. I think whatever there was of Chuck got lost somehow, Koma & Jax follow to much & Mel – blacccch. I don’t think she had a personality to lose to start with. At least in the first season or two Chuck came across as a whole person. I never thought that of Mel.
Y’all are all right. Johnny is pissed. He goes on and on to anyone that will listen about how Peggy was cut out of the show because of kitty cat producer. He even tw pics of Peggy nonstop. We get it; she got iced. I’m sure that sucks. Karma is a biatch, ain’t it? They shouldn’t have set their “friend” up and trusted that kitty cat. Now look where they are. Why is their salon closed anyway? He said on tw they’re opening a new one, but why didn’t they wait to close Allure whatever until the new one was ready? The way Johnny tells it Penny is rolling in $$$.
i wrote this b/4 (sorry if you have to hear it again) Penny works on alot of famous ppl. she is now working on opening a salon in Glen Rock NJ. Its an up scale town but it already has like 5 salons in the center of town which is only has 2 blocks .
Little Rock is tiny it borders Hawthorne….
lol little rock funny,yes right by hawthorne
And yet Pete and company are still friendly with Kim D who also set it up, go figure
Interesting development… Perhaps Penny and Johnny AND Pete and Shelia will be the new faces on next season after all. Already starting a twitter tift with each other.
Maybe Twitter fights are the new way to audition for the show,
i think backstabbing and promising private dirty info on Teresa is the way to get your name in Bravo lights. Bravo really appreciates upstanding folk of character. L.O.L. It worked for MeHo and JoGo and those crazy kids the Wakiles.
aint,i just wish we could see the tape
I’ve come to the conclusion that BRAVO is nothing but a sleze ass station. The slezieer the better. The more you break someone and I don’t care if part of it’s scripted or not it’s doing harm to people and they enjoy it. Hopefully the station dies soon before they have another death on their hands.
me too Barb
Sure seems like it.
I know right!! When I saw this on Twitter I was shocked and asked SH if she had seen the tweets, I thought that I was missing something! I did notice that any time Johnny would tweet something to Teresa she never responded to him and that right there made me suspicious of how “close” they really were!
Johnny just tweeted this:
“John Karagiorgis@JohnnyTheGrk
All I can say is wow. Wishing all health, happiness, & fortune. Even to those who created a rift with false information & malice intentions.”
I wonder WTH happened!!
Well whatever it is Tree is still showing family loyalty by not tweeting Johnny since he obviously hates Mel and threatened to kick her brothers butt
( to hear him tell it)
I dont know what Pete has to do with this. Seems to me like he would be all for someone that wanted to stomp a mud hole in Joey since Joey is mean to his brother (juicy) Laws a mercy… its getting bout as convoluted as the Hatfields and the McCoys up in here. Either way, Pete did get more camera time this week than Johnny and Penny(not that that means anything)
That’s the tricky part MP, Pete and Shelia would sometimes communicate back and forth with Johnny & Penny. So from that I thought that they were ALL cool! IDK if the Giudices went along because J & P said they were on the show or if they did it all in fun, but now they have me scratching my head.
Pete said that he finally got his wife to come over from the dark side. i wonder what that means. Is she on the Marco team? Blech.
Not sure if she is/was on the Marco team, but I’m on the fence about Sheila. If you go back further on her Twitter, she has retweeted some nasty comments about Teresa. She is also very good friends with Andrea(Lalascookie jar on Twitter) and Andrea is always tweeting nasty comments about Teresa. If one of my friends ever dissed one of my SIL’s, I would tell her to shut up and not talk about my family. I certainly wouldn’t retweet it for the world to see!
Its certainly not convenient for the Giudices to be “friends” with anybody involved in any kind of a setup. Timing is everything my friends. There’s a reason this is happening until now. Anyways I don’t think T was involved in The setup BUT if she were to be I’d be damn glad she was. She’s been setup all damn season
Hmmm… I think the mutual ‘friend’ that Bubba was referring to is a certain little ex-producer we are now well aware of. DISGUSTING!
That’s exactly who I think it is too!!!
Are you kidding me? That is why Jax called Tre disgusting and scum? LOL all this time I was thinking that there just had to be more to this story. Jax is pathetic and Chucky back there with her ugly mug is what is disgusting. Tre just walk away and never deal w/ these morons any more.
Chucky is the mean muggin queen!
Supposedly KIM GRANTELL has a condo with a birds eye view of the bldg that held the Fashion show. She was watching who was going in and out. Also, they said that the producers fudged with the editing and it will appear next week that ANGELO said something about Teresa and he has recently claimed that BRAVO took the words and edited them to be different.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Kim Granatell was the mutual friend, well, mutual person that Jac was referring to. Talk about stupid gossip…she said….he said….this shows a prime example of stupid it all gets and how harmful.
I don’t believe Teresa was behind Angelo coming to the Fashion show, but I love it to be her cos MELISSA GORGA & HER SHRIMPY HUBBY DESERVE IT TEN FOLD!
I dont believe Tre did it either I think like the rest she was a Pawn and the plan was BY BRAVO alone to make her look bad.
ITA Lisa. I cannot believe that the rest of the cast cannot comprehend that they could be next. When the producers have exhausted their “hate Teresa” campaign someone else will have to wear the target on their backside.
Boy you got that right
Jersey: KimG DOES have a Hoboken condo… some of her September 29, 2011 tweets were included here: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2012/09/15/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-tomorrows-episode-komakathy-desserts-biz-melissa-gorga-music-biz-teresa-giudice-stripper-setup-kimg-declined-invite/ TFC!! SH
Was this the Son Cubano in West New York or in Hoboken?? I thought it was the one in WNY, in which case it’s not a nice place for any “upscale” phony HW to be livin’.
Son Cubano is in Jersey City. V. nice location.
Hmm, I thought it was in WNY??? And a year ago when I was moving, there were all signs for it opening in Hoboken too. (Jersey City has a “nice” location? Really??????????????)
Jax has taken to twitter to claim it wasn’t Kim G. Whatever….
ha, well maybe if people just keep throwing names out to her, we can figure out by process of elimination. What a goof, if you don’t want to share who it is, you don’t share who it is not. She will either end up saying no it is not them to every name, then she is just wasting her fingers energy and time . If you stop saying no, well there you go..you have a winner. She is like a little kid.
Maybe if her Bravo crew friends throw her a few more xanax’s we will get to the truth. Personally, I think it was a Bravo producer this Kitty kat or whatever the fudge, who tweeted.
This is what Will Love is saying as well.
Tom Murro was with Kim G so it could have been him. In reality it could have been Cat the producer or even Lookers herself since I believe she was part of the set up to make Teresa look bad.
Tom Murro was up on the rooftop of Kim G’s condo with her, maybe it was him who tweeted Jax?
Oops, sorry old NJ girl! I was replying to Puppetteer and didn’t see that you gave the same reply first! I also thought possibly Cat or Melissa. Great minds think alike, huh?
whos tom murro?
Yeah, cause she never lies.
thats weird why didnt she say that ,that night to tre or lapband….tre wasnt even friends w/ kim
I cannot get past Caroline’s 3rd grade grammar …
Maybe she is Bilingual..*runs away giggling*
Disclaimer I know she isnt just being silly no hate posts please
LOL .. giggle worthy indeed , I actually snorted
She IS bilingual. Her second language is Manzoidese. It is a rare dialect that requires you have to have an IQ<100 and a speech impediment in order to become proficient in it. It also helps to have a sour outlook on life and a bitter disposition.
hehehehehehe so does teresa Speak Teresanese
I’m not even sure Teresa speaks Teresanese after her Italian lesson with the girls! LOL I did thin gia was a good teacher though.
You also must speak in the 3rd person at all times! Her most irritating habit IMO.
she speaks fluent guido.
funny is funny
that was funny. If your funny, I promise to laugh at who ever you make fun of. I am an equal opportunity laugher.
There is a special place in hell for people who try to ruin other people’s lives. Whoever you are, spend eternity gossiping with Madoff, Hitler, Bin ladin, and the rest of the scum!
Just spit balling here, BUTT – maybe Pete tweeted that to distance himself from the Greeks because his presence at the fashion show implicates Teresa in the alleged set-up. Kinda lame, I know.
I agree. Timing seems odd.
They’ve been chit chatting all year on twitter then days before the finale this happens?
Maybe John and Penny are on the verge of getting busted for something, and no one wants to be guilty by association. Many of DonCaro’s friends have been arrested.
Really?! For what?
Pete Giudice @PeteGiudice
@TeamPDKHair the both of you talk to much and thats the problem. Leave my family out of your mouths.
oh, maybe it puts Joe/teresa in breech of their contract with Bravo. Maybe John and Penny knowing information being divulged from the inside is trying to be pinned on someone.
I have a question, did John and Penny rent the space they had at the start of the show, or own it? If they owned it, is that not the same space Lauren’s place is in?
fify: JTG and Penny’s place was “Le Chateau Allure”… LapBand’s place is the old “Chateau” hair salon where the original NJ Housewives were found. TFC!! SH
Thanks!
their opening a place in Glen Rock ,nj
Good point about “breech.” I wonder if that’s what’s behind it.
Also, good point on Lauren’s new store. I noticed the name the old name of it when Lauren and Caroline went into it to check it out. It was on this last episode. It would be weird if it was Penny’s old place.
just read SH’s post above mine…thx for info!
JMO, but I think Pete should’ve only spoken for himself, & not added Teresa & JoeGiu to it. Either Teresa or Joe could’ve come out & said whether they were friends or not. Who’s to say Pete didn’t misunderstand & Tre or Joe had said that they were friends, just not “good” friends…….
Now, if this ends up not being completely true, Joe & Tre are going to have to do “damage control”.
If it IS true, then I wonder what happened, cuz I’ve seen pics of them hanging out before!
Don’t you think it is a little odd the email to SH was sent with so many photo’s of Tre in them?
Teresa doesn’t tweet about the show……..
Sometimes the family, friends, handlers, entourage, acquaintances and assorted hangers-on of famous people talk the most sh[t. Meaning you, Pete. They get really tough and protective about b.s. Meanwhile the actual celebrity, athlete or ‘tv personality’ is usually pleasant. *from talking to people who works in restaurants and venues where celebs frequent–they always say the same thing.
I doubt that Shelia and Penny would be the newest housewives because if they were there would be no casting calls and they would already be locked and loaded.
It seems this side of Teresa’s family sticks together. Take a lesson Little Joe & Melissa!
OMG. I can never get that image of Joey Gargaloid stripping with the bunny ears out of my head. maybe he can play that tape at Daddy day for Antonia’s class.
LOL he is such a tool…MeGo can have him and his poison.
I dont understand this one ”
Pete Giudice @PeteGiudice
@AllAboutTRH No. We happen to be a few functions and they were there with friends. We were at Disney years ago and seen a show for an hr.
Is he saying they were at Disney together? Last time I went to Disney, It was with family and friends? Who travels to Disney with acquaintances? He just being facetious? Knows there is a Disney photo floating out there somewhere? Wha?
I think Teresa is horrified that anyone wants to come on the show to “out” Melissa. That’s her brother’s wife. That’s the reason I don’t think Teresa was behind the Posche Fashion Show “set up”-IF Melissa was a stripper, Teresa would never expose that! I’m sure it was only a concern BEFORE Joe married Melissa. Now that they’re married, it doesn’t matter, and Teresa certainly isn’t going to bring it to light. And she doesn’t want anyone else to bring it to light either! Teresa truly wants to move FORWARD and have a close family again. That’s not gonna happen if more people come on the show to drive a wedge between her and her brother…
I thought I recently read that Pete & Sheila declared bankruptcy too??? And they were supposedly the “rich” ones in this NJ series?? What a joke.
these peoples are a a**holes and I can’t even bother to read these comments…
Looks like you just did.
He lost me after “me and my family.” It’s “my family and I.” Can’t take any more of these gumbas butchering punctuation they should have learned by the 5th grade if they weren’t already in juvie.
Where is the Allure located?
Barb: LeChateauAllure is no longer located in the same place as shown on the finale. The phone now answers “Columbos”… TFC!!! SH
Thank you because when I looked it up, it was listed as being on Ridge Rd in Lyndhurst which is right near my son.
it used to be in North Arlington on Ridge road. Robert Palumbo took over the space.
Can’t take Pete too seriously when he’s tweeting John Payatakis @johnnythegreek instead of John Karagiorgis @JohnnyTheGrk and TeamPDKHair @TeamPDKHair instead of Penny Drossos @PDKhair . Fake drama, that’s all, just like teresa, fake,fake, fake
I noticed that he accidentally tweeted the wrong Greek…lol.
I honestly believe that Pete’s not on the computer eoungh, let alone Twitter, and made an honest mistake in typing out the names…
so sorry for my typos…I need an edit button for sure when I type a comment!
I think that you are right! From looking at his tweet he was replying to one of Ms. SH’s tweets that appears to accidentally have the wrong Twitter name for John K.
Sheila G is definitely anti-Tre.She is BFF w/Lalas Cookie Jar who hates Tre w/a passion!
I agree. When she first came on twitter,she wasn’t even following Teresa Giudice. Also she was VERY friendly with Lysa. She was also friendly on twitter with Penny, that doesn’t mean that they hang out. Noticed that Teresa NEVER tweet to Pete nor Sheila. Teresa is also friendly with one of Sheilas’s friend, GIGISMOM, they ALWAYS hangout and tweet each other, but Teresa NEVER tweets Sheila. I was shocked when Sheila all of a sudden became Team Teresa…and telling folks on twitter don’t listen to the rumor, and that they ALWAYS get along. Me think Teresa has Sheila’s number.
OMG I just read it. I knew Jax was SCUM. How desparate does she have to be to do that to someone. Jax and husband make a good pair – I hope they suffer together.
This was in response to an article on another blog about RHONJ where it was pointed out that Jax sitting at the table at the fashion show, waved to the bald guy when he came in, pointed to her mic and chuckled. I guess she knew who he was.
What did you read? And what did Jac do? thx
Someone posted the link but I guess it was a no-no and it was taken down. But it was on another blog about NJ housewives “fame” something – it’s quite a read. Surprised no one hear caught it because this site and followers are the best detectives I have ever come across.
it’s on Fame-whorgas blog
Nonna: Jax acknowledging someone is such a non-issue… everyone knows that the ENTIRE PFS was a set up from the get go. Next week someone forgets their mic is on. The PFS has been talked about for over a year; Melissa was not a stripper. This entire storyline/finale is boring. TFC!! SH
Someone’s mic was still on, did they make comment that this was a set up?
Its on the famewhorga site. The click on the famewhorga’s link on SH’s blogroll further up this screen on the right.
Its on the famewhorga site. The click on the famewhorga’s link on SH’s blogroll further up this screen on the right.
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I’m all confused with this whole bunch.
Look at Sheila Giudice tweets and TL. Just last week she tweeted Melissa that Melissa’s daughter looked adorable. What’s up with that?
Also, Sheila has had personal and friendly tweets with Penny going back to last Oct or Nov of 2011. They appeared to be friends.
Another also, is that Sheila was tweeting Mel’s sister going back last winter and maybe earlier than that. It’s all on the twitter line.
This is a mystery for sure!
I saw this too! Its all becoming too convoluted for me. Sheila dislikes Tre and is friendly with MeGo and her sisters, yet Pete tweets in support of Tre. Makes your head hurt doesn’t it?
Really, because Tre has spent all summer with Sheila and Sheila is all about family and would never support MeGo’s troll sisters.
Yes, it does…lol. Glad someone else noticed those same tweets trails.
Very shocking to see Pete go directly at Penny & John. Even thought Teresa is not friends with them, Pete’s wife appears to be real chummy with them…her tweeter line says it all. Something fishy is going on….and by golly we all gonna figure it out…lol
I don’t even see where she follows them on her tweets – so I guess anything you see, is one sided.
I didn’t understand comment?
If you go back in time on Sheila’s tweets, you’ll see where so corresponds with Penny and it’s friends talk about getting together. I think it starts approx May 12th and goes way back to last January or even before. Go to Sheila’s twitter…u’ll see there was a friendship and girl chat going on between Sheila and Penny. That’s why what Pete did yesterday was baffling to say the least.
I think Shelia was about to take the Hate Tre Train until it derailed and the viewers caught on to the ambush! And like any man that stays out of the fray Pete is coming to clean up the mess of his wife being messy backstabbing Tre to be on the show… When you become famous, you become everyone’s target! No ones loyal…
Maybe she just trying to keep the peace…..she friendly w/ them yet team Tre. Maybe she knowes what we know….waits for show to air.
Does anyone else think its strange that we see Pete approach the table to say hi to Tre and MeGo, but not Sheila? I believe she was at the PFS. I could have sworn I saw a tweet from her saying she was there. She is friendly with MeGo and obviously knows Tre, but she didn’t want to say hi? Also Caroline asked who Pete was, but him and Juicy could be twins! Wouldn’t they have met at Tre’s house warming party? Have they really never crossed paths before?
I did! How could Caroline and Jac not know Pete? Something is not right here….no way did Caroline not know who Pete Giudice was and yet Caroline asked who he was!
Yeah, what’s up with that. It’s like asking who Jamie Laurita is. Chuckie does like to sow those seeds – it’s her master plan of who knows what – but it will come to light – it always does.
Do you think she was just being a smartass?
I think pete said hi to jax
It is odd he was even invited. If this is normal and we just do not normally see him at functions, what is the purpose of seeing him this time? Of all the moments they could film, they chose this for a reason.
I loved his reply on twitter to the question of why he was there; “I was invited.” Love the simpleness of it.
I have a feeling Sheila is a new NJ housewife. I bet with all their gatherings together this summer with Teresa and Joe that Bravo may have already started filming.
Exactly NonnaB… I’m thinking the same thing!
We did see him at the Fabilini launch party. Which of course was filmed after the PFS be aired before it.
Fify remember the same night or next day Jac tweets a pic of Joe supposely out at Friday’s with a woman, what if BravoMady invited Pete to the show so that Joe couldn’t say it was his brother they. I think Andy wanted to take Joe down as well big time! That’s another reason Jac didn’t show up for the Reunion, she thought Tre was going to kick her @$$!
They probably did have Pics of Joe maybe they were old pics but to set him up on that night to make it look like while his wife was at Kim D’s show he was out with a woman…
Yeah , alot of people talk about the way southerners speak. I ‘d like to ask – yozz guyz ever see dis show called houzwives of New Jersey? It’s all about fambily ;P
The moron Manzos dared to attempt southern cooking and fake accents. Failed miserably. They probably think they have no accent.
Any grown man in his 30′s or 40′s who spends his time on twitter??? Gotta wonder.
Agreed!!
Okay so this is what I see when I look back on Pete Giudice’s tweets concerning Johnny the Geek
10 Jun Pete Giudice @PeteGiudice
@favabeanmatanz @TeamLeahD @johnnythegrk @greekchickcomic Let me jump in…Franks da real deal.The only constipation u hv is in you mouth .
I wouldn’t call that being friends now – would you.
Shoot and Score.
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Seems the twitter battle has something to do with an erroneous twitter acct. – Johnny the Greek just asked Team PDK Hair to take down their account. Lots of nonsense going on.
I saw something a while back on twitter. Did @QueenzOfMedia alter a tweet of JTG’s to say something about Joe Giudice? Then there seemed to be a big fall out.
I thought prior to this that Pete, Johnny, Penny and Sheila all tweeted each other. Plus I read a blog that Pete and Johnny were both in a tweet war with Melissa’s make-up artist and Queenz???
Yeah, I believe Johnny was talking about a former employee of the hair salon that went to prison. Queenz altered it supposedly to make it look like Johnny was talking about Joe Giudice. I think that’s how it went down. I am not twitter literate and I read all twitter posts on the net, but if anybody else remembers this that can clear this up?
Go to FameWhorgas they have the tweet war between Pete, Johnny & Queens of Media
To be honest, I watch the show, I read certain blogs but I don’t live my life through it like I notice some people do.
It all makes my head twirl a bit. I mean if you put yourself on Reality TV then you are going to be judged, but some ‘fans’ just seem to go one step too far in my opinion.
I just saw this twitter exchange from earlier today between the Greek and Pete G:
Pete Giudice @PeteGiudice
@JohnnyTheGrk remind your bullshiter frineds they know jack shit of what happened and to let it go. We might come for lunch.
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@PeteGiudice it’s all good. Agreed!!!
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