On next week’s Real Housewives of New York… Sonja Morgan and PT Housewife meet for a little chat. One question: Who the hell died and left PT Housewife the judge and jury over all??
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Pt is a pompous ass. She is a fun ruiner. Who cares if the girls wanted to havefun? What a party pooper. Oh i forgot, she went to vassar. She can hear and understand everything. Well understand this, the viewers dont care for you, and hope you dont return next season. Shall i say that in other languages?
Shut up Aviva! You are a PT, get it?! Vassar, bassar who cares? You do nothing to help people ! All you do is ruin lives and fun! Go ahead and crawl into a cabinet you snake!
Well said VeniReki…..
I don’t particularly like PT, but she’s right about Sonja. Coming from someone thats been there.
Uh, Sonja s a grown ass woman who can make her own decisions. Her particular morals tell her her behavior is okay. She hasn’t hurt anyone!
She is hurting herself. So sad to watch her fall from greatness. Imagine what her life was like with the Morgan finances. She has most definitely had a change of fortune and were it not for the Housewife money would most likely be in quite a pickle.
The sad thing is that Mr. Morgan should just give pay to get the house in order, provide a cook and a maid for Sonja so that their daughter is well cared for when she is with her mom. He can afford it.
But that is her choice to make….and she doesn’t see anything wrong with herself….she is what she is and she likes herself…Mr. Morgan was tantalized with Sonja in her younger days but obviously tired of her later…and there is nothing to prove she is a bad mother…just a bit slutty and there are a lot of slutty moms out there that love their children.
Also, I would love – just once – to see this standard applied to single fathers. Some of them sleep around and don’t get 1/10th the amount of flack that single mothers do.
I agree with you totally. When I was younger it used to piss me off so much when guys got together and made nasty remarks about girls they slept with. I mean the guys slept with them! I actually called a few dates whores…LoL… I mean guys can sleep around with anything and yet feel that if a woman does the same thing they are dirty sluts. Come on, I should think that times have changed and men should be held accountable for their behavior as well as what they expect from women. And while we are on the subject (a little off our site) why do men who wear no shirts or wife beaters with their big fat bellies hanging out can dare to make comments about women who walk by who are a little on the heavy side? I mean I cant count the times have seen big,sweaty, butt ugly old farts that stand out in front yard watering the lawn or picking their noses and when a woman walks by who is heavy can make nasty remarks.I mean OMG! Ok, anyways….Sonny is grown woman and if she wants to sleep around its her business. I for one don’t think she should make it a public sport or video tape it like some women(KimIamawhoreKartrashian). If she wants to portray herself as a lady then she might want to tone it down a little.
PT could b a slut too, look at her dad…..just saying
My thought is that Aviva has a skewed perception of sexuality because of her perv dad. I’m not saying he has ever touched her, (I hope), but just hearing and seeing that behavior and disgusting talk from your father can really mess up your perceptions of what is acceptable, and male/female roles. She seems to think men like her dad are cute, but women like Sonja are dirty or wrong…
totally agree with ur post. I kinda feel sorry for Sonja. My sister was in the same situation at one time.
Yes she is. Substance abuse is hurting herself…. it could kill her and is also hurting her little girl. She needs to step back and think of her daughter and what would happen if……God forbid.
She does seem to be drinking and not controling her alcohol very well ….i dont see as a prob yet jus havung fyn
Sonja is right. Who the hell does Aviva think she is? Telling someone they are white trash and are a bad example to their daughter is below is the belt and way beyond anything the other housewives have said to her. Yes, Sonja probably drinks too much but it’s obvious Aviva doesn’t really care about that.
Aviva’s problem is that her trust fund and looks has given her a false sense of superiority and entitlement. I actually liked her at the start of this season but now think she is the most detestable housewife. She thinks she is the centre of the universe and should be catered to and adored by everyone at all times.
What trust fund?
Trust fund babies don’t usually have to resort to selling fake designer handbags and defraud to make a living. Let’s face it if They had any money the lawsuit would never have been filed. How desperate for money do you have to be to blatantly rip off an 81 year old man trying to save his company and retain his employees.
Cyn, I think 84
If PT had morals she wouldn’t need to sell her fake bags….it’s illegal, ms lawyer,
and she had the nerve to call the girls out for “lack of character(??)”…..what? huh? the last time I checked having a good time didn’t show a lack of character but selling fake bags makes the cut every time!
Cynthia, that’s just sad… And she called Sonja & Ramona white trash… I beg to differ!
what looks?
Waaaay below the belt. PT makes Zarin look positively kittenish. Man, she has done herself NO FAVORS by appearing on this show. Her character has been revealed and it ain’t pretty.
couldn’t agree with you more maggie
Good for Sonja! Don’t apolgize to that witch! Sonja didn’t do jack to PT to be sorry about. If PT was actually worried for Sonja she would have taken her aside in private and voiced her concerns. Oh PT, you really turned a lot of viewers off!
PT has some major issues; her fobias, her insecurities, the way she speaks to people; I am still taken back on how she expected some grand welcome from that plane ride. Climb Mt. Everest PT and we’ll throw you a parade. All the ladies, even Luann were tired of her “lets focus on me and my triumph on the plane”. She did ruin the groove the ladies had going on, she won’t let the ladies get a word in edge wise. Sonja, yes sometimes she is full of herself and aside from the Toaster Oven, I think Sonja is harmless and it’s downright mean for PT to judge her or maybe the fact Harry slept with Sonja, maybe Sonja and Luann were not afraid in bed, can you imagine the fobias PT has in the bedroom?
Yeah can u imagine all the rules she has in the bedroom. LOL! Scheduling and all.
i bet that “schedule” is few and far between
“…aside from the Toaster Oven, I think Sonja is harmless” I love that that reads, that’s too funny!
sooo harmless….and aside from the “pecking order” comment, she really doesn’t degrade others….and I took the pecking order thing to be more about Bravo and the show than girlfriends
Oh please, let’s not imagine that! Thanks for that vision Pom
I am sorry, but who cast the Evita? She is a rude, condescending, boring, childish, self-absorbed, ugly jerk. All of your partying, drinking, blah blah, blah. She should have left her uptight ass in New York and her husband, too. Maybe Sonja is going down the wrong path, but some uptight a-hole she barely knows is not the person to sit her down for an intervention. I hate Aviva. I don’t care if she has one leg or not. She is a nasty piece of work. Yuck.
She sure is nasty ain’t she
She doesn’t have a leg to stand on gessie, did I just say that? Yep I did!
Favoriting your comment!
plus, we are seeing sonja AT parties, social gatherings, girl trips etc….of course she’s going to be partying. I’m guessing PT knows nothing, absolutely nothing about her private life…..and who is someone with a fraudulent business husband to talk…..STFU PT!!!
watched last nite. what a bunch of crazy’s. i have been commenting from the first episode;
that heather and carole are the gangsta chic cool girls. the show re-enforced my opinion.
sonya and ramona are annoying and too loud. but; aviva takes crazy, loud, obnoxious, narcisists
to a whole new level. if she stays on, bravo just lost a viewer.
oh, if only they would oust her
i agree mostly with all of the comments, pt is a snot. sonja does sometimes go a little crazy, but she was on vacation. who cares who sonja is sleeping with as long as she is not dragging men to her home every night, shich she has already made clear in the past she doesn’t… remember her thursday nights? the trouble with pt is she has been caterred to for a very long time and when no one is catering to her she gets frantic… it gets old for shits sake! at the end of the day who the hell really cares what sonja does, she isn’t hurting pt or sleeping with her husband and isn’t driving.
What really blows me away is PT’s double standards. Sonja’s behavior is much less offensive than PT’s decrepit father, yet PT stands and casts judgment on Sonja while laughing at her father’s offenses.
preeesicely!
I personally never cared for Sonja, I have always thought from season 1 that she is a delusional, self absorbed, menopausal, tight fisted, drunken slut.
However during this recent episode I saw something different underneath all her antics is a very frightened, very insecure person. Her substance abuse has become a monster and I do not believe for one second that she only dabbles with alcohol. At one point I found myself feeling really sorry for her when she was blow drying herself in the red dress and then stumbled back into a chair with bruises all over her legs. I kept thinking I do hope her ex-husband and friends are not watching this.
I have more empathy for her now I do agree with with Aviva, Sonja married well and is so used to everything that comes with that now it is gone and she cant deal with it. Money seems to be a huge issue for her she seems to be trying to continue in a lifestyle that she can not afford.
Her conversation in the car when she was relaying to Luanne about Aviva coming after her again all she got from that conversation with Aviva was that Aviva was mad because she has Yachts and private Islands “I cant help that” see says. The operative word is HAD those days are over.
Aviva on the other hand needs to take several seats somewhere, she is the most condescending self centered beotch ever to grace our screens.
The person I felt bad for was Carole she really is a nice sweet person she basically had to pacify all of them at one point where in her place I would have told them all to go F*** themselves and spent the entire time with Russ.
Well, said, Duchess. I agree with you completely.
Watching the above clip, I cannot help but think that Aviva is not the right person to stage an intervention with Sonja. Though it is very obvious that Sonja is in serious trouble with alcohol, far more than just “having fun.” She is in a downward spriral. But coming from Aviva, will only make Sonja defensive and angry. I agree that Aviva comes across and condescending and judgmental, not as a concerned friend.I do hope that Sonja does get the help that she needs and is able to turn her life around.
I feel like ppl are passing judgement on her for the alcohol use. I’m thinking that the downward spiral may be emotional and I wish I heard more compassion coming from the commenters. I think she is struggling to make ends meet, is doing the best she can at the moment and needs the the support or her friends and not their judgemnt (esp PT). Deep down, I see her as a good soul.
Other than on holiday I can’t recall seeing Sonja over indulge. I think Sonja seems to be working through the emotions brought up by her divorce. I admit she is an aging party girl but I’m not sure she has an alcohol or drug issue.
Couldn’t have said it better. My former doctor had me on such high levels of pain meds etc….that I recognize it probably isn’t just a few drinks. Honestly worried for her. She had often said her biggest fear was becoming homeless and we all know if you say something enough it becomes reality. Seriously worried for her and her daughter should something bad happen. You are right. PT is not the best choice to intervene, she comes off as attacking her out of spite instead of concern. If I were Carole I would have told the producers HELL NO….and leave those ladies at home! haha
I love when Aviva says that the only reason the girls didnt want Reed there was so he wouldnt see them drinking and bringing guys back to the house. Well ok Sonja is single and can bring back whom ever she wants and it no ones business. I doubt Ramona cares who sees her getting drunk, she has a business based on wine. Oh and duh Aviva there are Bravo camera’s there 24/7 so I really dont think it was a huge deal that your husband witnessed anyone’s behaviour when the world gets to see it on Monday nights. They didnt want him there because he seems like a big stick in the mud and if they wanted to go on a couples getaway they would have brought thier husbands or dates.
IMO Aviva is pissed at Sonja and Ramona for being friends with Harry and not supporting her because she says he’s not paying child support. Didn’t she blog about that a few weeks ago. In Avivia’s world that makes them white trash no matter what they do. I love remembering her telling Heather was indefensible because she said Ramona was acting crazy. That seems so tame compared to the way she went after Sonja.
agree with your comparison to her calling heather indefensible when she attacks sonja the way she does….just one more incindent ofPT’s hypocrisy
Agree with all of you. Aviva has ruined this show and needs to go.
I also feel sorry for sonja, she had it all at one time and now she is depending on child support (which isen’t forever) and her rh paycheck. Mr morgan must of had a tight pre nup. He could at least provide sonja and his daughter a nice home where everything is functioning, sounds like sonja is living in a money pit.
Dear Aviva,
Instead of worrying about Sonja’s charachter, please direct your attention towards your pervert of a father and you’re shyster of a husband.
Thank You.
i second that mayzie
And know this PT, regardless of the words you put in your dorkopotamus husband’s mouth about the “overweight” dig, Sonja has popped into his head from time to time. At (ahem) crucial moments too. Bloop bloop bloop.
MP you and cherry are on a roll tonite!
I copied this from my post earlier…..
And PT NEVER scolded LUmann for having sex w Tomas only sahnja.
She overlooks her own slutty alkie stewardess mother, and as a NYC girl I’m sure she knows plenty of tramps whose behavior she selectively overlooks, let’s not even begin to speculate about the things this very insecure PT might have done in her own youth……..her extreme protests raise an eyebrow. Of course there is the issue of her illegal handbags, her convicted Brother in law, her shady husband, and her sleazy behavior with her ex. Scary this is the tip of the iceberg,imagine PTs daily life……
oooooo. Good point about the insecure youth. When she was a youngin I bet the poem on the bathroom wall about her would have been:
twinkle tinkle little whore
close your legs, its not a door.
That was so funny……………………………………
Not only does Reid’s mind wander off to slutty sahnja, I bet Harry’s did too.
In the clip Sonja is drinking water at the restaurant , I doubt that Nanny PT is aware of how Sonja conducts herself 24 /7 . The unbridled anger that PT feels towards Sonja is probably rooted in Sonja’s relationship with Mr Poopy Pig aka Harry Dubin.
PT threw a screaming fit in a Hampton’s deli in July when she encountered Dubin buying four wraps and four panini sandwiches .
” The Bravo star lost it when she saw Dubin buying piles of pricey sandwiches, indicating he’s allegedly living high on the hog while owing about $344,372 in child support
and other payments.
“You better fix this!’’ Drescher yelled. “How dare you buy sandwiches at the Golden Pear and not pay your child support?’’
“I’m heartbroken that you’re not taking any responsibility,’’ Drescher told him.
“Good,’’ Dubin replied sarcastically, a spy said.
He claims that the amount he owes PT is miniscule.
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/real_housewife_kid_battle_VgQ6Fww9t6iexWKUhuzvIO
Sonja was on vacation, she is unmarried, no children were present and she wasn’t driving.
It’s her vacation and her business . Period.
Aviva is such a hector and an obnoxious busybody . And apparently prone to fits of public screaming . So white trash.
When she and Reid were making their grand entrance at the villa ( awaiting their party ,
trumpet fanfare ,
red carpet , banners and balloons )
she haughtily demanded that the young girl driving them bring in their bags .
How much could she have had for a weekend that she couldn’t have carried it in herself ?
And Reid is such a wimp, he made the young woman lug in his suitcase .
Such Ugly Americans.
I am thinking now that Sonja knew PT was this way(faux pretentious, judgmental, arrogant, rude, mean, snotty) when she booked that singer to come preform at PT and Reed’s anniversary party. She picked the most humiliating one she could find. Good on SonJa for that. PT must have been LIVID.
I loved Sonja’s humor and can’t stop laughing at the comment “If she had paid for her education maybe she would have used it.” So much for going to Vassar, law school and speaking several languages.
Cyn, alleged SEVERAL languages.
English, French and Pig Latin. LOL.
Ok then that’s several
I’d call that a “few”….not several…..but that’s the very first time I’ve every not agreed 100% with ya GF!
oh good call, piley….and if she did….major KUDOs to sonja for that one!
lol. I bet PT had to keep her rage bottled up over that one and then… bam showed up in St Barths loaded for bear.
I think SH says it best in the post, who made Aviva judge and jury? If Sonja has alcohol dependency issues, she can deal with that if and when she needs and wants to. Why is it sooo awful to be out til 4 am, or to have flings with men? How is it sooo horrible to get drunk on vacation and swim nude? And any divorced woman who has been through the ringer is entitled to drink what she wants and sleep with who she wants, it isn’t 1942. I think Aviva is just using this to attack Sonja, she will never get over that Sonja had fun with Harry, probably much more fun than he ever saw with Aviva.
A quote-don’t know exact words or author sums up PT-esp re: Sonja-people begrudge others what they themselves cannot enjoy. Someone will eventually shift her gears, hopefully we’ll get to watch, I’d love it if Ramonja had hidden one of PT’s legs-you know, just for fun.
ahhhh….yes, pulled a kim on her! many have commented about making them feel that they want to remove her leg and beat her with it….well, I’m finally there too
Dear Sonja, please get yourself to a docotor/naturopath/somebody to help you with your blood disorder: easily bruising, heavy menstruation. Anemia is prevalent in chronic alcoholism. You’ll feel better about lots of stuff. We don’t want you to fall apart.
I was working in the overgrown garden this morning and found a moldy old rat’s nest with a snake in it. I named it PT.
LOL….too darn funny
Aviva- so what if sonja was partying at 4AM Big bloody deal. When I go on vacation , I will party until the sun rises. So what? Geez.. Aviva, you have NO fun personality.
If Ramona is so bloody rich ( she has a house in the Hamptons, right?) why doesn’t she help out her friend, Sonja?
The difference between PT and Sonja is that PT is a “nasty, hateful” person and Sonja is not!
Good observation you pointed out, there. Sonja is many things: she’s selfish, a party animal, a cougar, and a slut (I don’t say that with hate, I say it because, well… it’s true), but she’s definitely NOT hateful. (And let’s be honest, with RHONJ being filled with nothing but hate, that’s kind of refreshing).
Truer words were never written….