August 23, 2012 8:00 am ET…
Oprah sits down with TV legend Kelsey Grammer. He sets the record straight about his public divorce, drug addiction, the tragedies that shaped his life and his new show, Boss. Plus, Kelsey’s wife, Kayte, gives her first television interview…
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he’s definately under the influence of something. and it’s not the new gf.
I agree, his pupils kind of speak for themselves, lol. Either he had a drink, or something stronger, but he’s definitely not “clean”.
I totally agree, he looks like he’s on something. I don’t think it’s alcohol, I remember when he was on his alcoholic binges back in the day. I think he’s pill popping, also Kelsey I know Camille can be a b***h but you where going behind her back and to be honest with you in her front dating your now new wife. I always thought it was weird when in the first season of RHOBH they went to NY to see your play Camille went back stage and you where trying like hell to get her out of there. You where waiting for your piece to come backstage and the last thing you wanted was you and her butting into each other. But what you didn’t realize was your apt. doorman not getting the message that you where cheating and confusing your new wife as your old wife.
Ohhhh…..lthat was big time humiliating. Talk about egg on Camille’s face, and Kelsey looked extremely douche
He creeps me out! And he’s too effeminate.
Old dude with chickie young enough to be his daughter ! .I offer no endorsement for cheating, in any circumstance.
he did a great job of showing what a cowardly balless assbag of a cheating bastard he was, is and will always be….
And would any of the young women be with these older men if they were not rich??
Or famous?
“Painted her as the other woman”????? She IS the other woman. Once Sluuuuuuut always sluuuuuut.
Who cares about Kelsey Grammer anyway…
seriously, why does anyone give this guy the time of day? He’s a gross old man and one of the biggest scumbags on tv
That girl is not attractive at all. Kelsy scraped the bottom of the young pup barrel. How embarrassing for him.
Touché bilsby and MP
He is such a bitter, angry, viscous, little queen. He really needs to come out of the closet already, and get over himself.
He looks terrible! How bizarre that he cannot even speak Camille’s name? Very strange and sad man. kh
Yep. True father of the year material right there.
Kh, not that bizarre I can’t Speak Camille’s name either…..hehehe. For gods sake she was a known prostitute in NYC. Vile, all of them
Oh snaaap!
Ha! I see what you mean! kh
You wouldn’t happen to be the other woman, now would you? You sound pretty bitter and knowledgable about Camille’s so called life, for a blogger that is!!
What do u mean for a blogger? What are bloggers? And no I’m not bitter, and I don’t sound bitter, and if you met me and saw me you’d be embarrassed you just posted that
Prettyasayes, I’m a new blogger, I’ve got some free time, and quite frankly I’m enjoying this a lot. And my impression of this blog is that they are all having fun, and no one sounds bitter or angry, very witty funny folks. But you know …..you sound off.
Yep, I’m having fun! Glad you found SH and are enjoying yourself as well. Welcome
I want to know about the prostitute part!! Funny how she went from the most hated housewife ever to being one of the most liked. I HATED her Season 1. Season 2 I liked her alot and felt so sorry for her. Vile Kyle was my fav Season 1 until the Limo scene with her sister.
Girlfriend knows a lot about the goings on in New York City. The fancy peoples, the notorious peoples and whatnot. The fakers, the shakers, the charity racket makers and all dat. I had forgot that Camille had NY ties.
LuuuuuuuuVVVVVV U MP!!!!!!
luuuuv ya right back darlin.
I know a big honcho well in the entertainment business that knows Camille and Kelsey well, and an acquaintance of mine dated a girl who danced with her for MTV. And she was pretty, not cheesy and hard like Camille.
I imagine she must have been quiet the lil hustler during her MTV days. Then went straight to the the exaggerated hoity toity as soon as she took the Grammer name. The same way that Alex irritates me when I hear her husband’s words and mannerism coming out of her, Camille was the same way first season. I watched an episode of Shatner’s Raw Nerve with Kelsey and that same cartoonish overblown opinion of himself was very evident.
And at the time when we were all young and Camille was penniless and unmarried, and a nobody, at the time I remember how much trouble she was. Didn’t connect it later that this was the MTV dancer causing so much $hit for the other dancer ….. I’d never met Camille then, but my friend was moneyed and I guess Camille wanted some…………
MP, you can still here Camille’s jersey accent when she slips sometimes…….such a fake, and yes quite the hustler
Love your posts Girlfriend. Keep up the good work!
My pleasure!
Girlfriend knows a lot about the goings on in New York City. The fancy peoples, the notorious peoples and whatnot. The fakers, the shakers, the charity racket makers and all dat. I had forgot that Camille had NY ties.
Yes? Your copy/paste skills are exemplary.
Lol MP! A plagiarist among us
I reckon I am right flattered Girlfriend. Such a thrill on a Thursday.
Often imitated. Never duplicated
MP: Sorry for that. “Vote” was questioning you and that part was deleted. Questioning fellow commenters is frowned upon; however, should have explained the omission earlier. TFC!!! SH
Oooooooh. I understand. Now I recall Vote would do it like that, quote someone right under their comment before he/she replied with whatever was on his/her brain at the time. Slightly cantankerous if memory serves. I just thought that in this particular comment there was a short circuit of some sort that prevented him/her from actually leaving his/her response. Musta been a doozy.Thanks Ms SH.
sounds scandalous!!! WOW
Now this is just ‘speculation on my part but based on the screen name Vote2012 its possible that she/she is used to discourse on the politikin blogs and as ya’ll may know those tend to draw blood(both sides) so it could be that Vote is having difficulty switching gears when bestowing us with ruminations. Its an easy mistake to make. So I will give a wide berth and hopefully he/she will learn to acclimate to our ways.
MP: You are a most gracious and forgiving woman! LOL!! TFC!! SH
That’s prolly because you were kind enough to remove the “questioning” Had I seen it, I might have got my dander up. Then ya know on like donkey kong or sumpin like that
Makes you wonder if they have some kind of agreement. I can not imagine someone is that much of a baby. No, I’m never going to say her name. Ever ever ever.
Funny how when he was first married to Camille he could not get off his soap box to extol the virtues of her greatness. I have seen countless interviews from him and he refuses to acknowledge what he has done to his ex-wife and children. Do I think Camille is a saint? No, however he should have ended the relationship with her in a not so public forum and then pursued the new wife after that. He has humiliated himself and his children by his actions. I say good ridden.
The 50 million she got in the settlement can help her out when she doesn’t feel good. lol
Prez ITA!
He’s such a pompous prick. Why can’t he say Camille’s name? So silly. I really despise the man and can’t wait till the young piece of a$$ dumps him.
Like her mousy hindend could do any better. Somehow don’t imagine the fellas beating down her door before Kelsey came along. Those two souless freaks deserve each other.
Touché again MP!
MP is on a roll today!!! lmao. I about spit out my coffee at souless freaks.
LOL. Sorry bout the coffee.
Don’t worry it wasn’t too hot! Ummm and not to digress or anything but WHY WHY WHY did he choose such a fugly woman? I don’t get it especially for someone so vain. Or maybe Camille was too good looking for him so he had to shut her down and get someone ugly to control. Sorry coffee I managed to swallow without spitting it out in a fit of laughter is kicking in and turning me into a typing beast!
Bahahahahaha. That very well could be his tactic. Sometimes men that had beautiful wives go that route for the next one. Total wallflower. I think Kelsey is thinking there is only room in the relationship for one queen and he be it. Cant have anyone upstaging him in the looks department.
Sharshar, u think Camille’s good looking??? Eww. Lisa is the beauty on that show.
camille looks like a fish. a really skinny one
Camille always looked and sounded stoned to me in season one anyway
i’ve never noticed that before……but yeah, youre right hahaha
Camille is Miss America compared to that woman he’s with now! Besides she has her moments of elegance. I think Lisa is very beautiful in an Old World Royalty type of way and Camille is more plastic new money elegance. That being said Camille is vastly superior in looks in my opinion. I mean c’mon its not even a competition when comparing her with Kelsey’s wife. Oh and MP your video’s are always spot on lol.
I agree MP. I remember when Kelsey and Camille got together. He was only a few days out of rehab and Camille arranged to meet him and then she promptly moved into his home. I remember this story because it had been revealed that Kelsey had spend a serious issues with his addictions, as well as the brutal murder of his sister that had lived in Colorado Springs. I live in CO, so this story caught my interest. For a long time, Camille would always appear in interviews with Kelsey, she always seemed to be posing and bragging and attempting to promote herself. Such a turn off! When she had the two children through surrogate, claiming IBS as the reason for not carrying her own children, all I could think was, that she wanted children to cememt her ties to Kelsey and his fame and fortune, long into the future.
Kelsey made one of many bad choices by ending the marriage the way that he did. He should have been straight up about ending the marriage and moved on before hooking up with a new person. But, quite honestly, I do not feel badly for Camille and I do not believe for one minute that she was faithful during a marriage that She claims had NO Sex for many, many years.
True. I agree. No sympathetic characters in the whole shootin match.. ‘cept the kids. And I remember thinking that Camille was sorta a snothead to his older kid’s by his previous marriage too. Of course Kelsey is the kind of dipstick dad that would ALLOW another woman to treat his kids like they dont exist. So whatever bullcrap he has coming down the road I am sure he deserves.
I’m grossed out
I dont condone what Kelsey did the cheating and all but If Camille was anything IRL like she was in season one well she wasnt a real Likeable person I could see why Kelsey got turned off I just wish he hadnt cheated because that is not the answer to martial problems
Kayte seems more grounded and kikeable though I havent seen to much of her So what she isnt a beauty queen she is pretty Looks is just one part of a person
Lisa, I am happy that you brought up the point of attractiveness in a relationship. Pretty is different to different people. And in a REAL relationship, it is a lot more that looks that creates a happy, healthy relationship. Frankly, I have never thought that Camille was particularly attractive from an esthetic standpoint and I always find her to be a put on…full of herself. There is nothing less attractive than a “Shallow” person! On the other hand, I think that Kayte is quite attractive and she does seem grounded and quite content staying out of the spotlight.
I do feel badly for Kelsey’s children. Money does not buy healthy self esteem that solid parenting affords!
I agree about Kayte, she is very attractive and looks so much fresher and more natural than his past wives. It makes me think he’s in a healthier place to chose a woman who isn’t stereotypically trophy material and who he can perhaps settle down and enjoy his life and family.
I don’t give him a pass for the cheating but who knows what their deal was and like Lisa said, Camille was horrible on season 1 before she got a chance to edit herself and market herself more manipulatively on season 2 .
That 1st Camille was the Camille he was shackled to all those years and there was no way she was ever in it for the love with him.
It is disturbingly telling that he won’t even say Camille’s name..like he won’t even acknowledge her existence. That creeped me out a little bit, doesn’t seem very healthy for him or their kids.
Ditto, Kate.
Wow – I think I may have lost a little respect for Oprah with this one but I guess I’ll reserve judgment for the rest of the interview before I form an opinion.
What I can never understand about a couple after they split is that they seem to forget their talking about the mother (or father) of their shared children. How can there be no respect at all ? I understand there is probably lots of emotional baggage involved with the Grammers – but seriously they were married for more than a minute – 14 years or something like that – and he expects us to believe it was a facade from day 1 – that’s pretty messed up ! I sure hope Oprah asks more tough questions about it all – since it took up a fairly major portion of his life. If I was one of his kids I think it would make me feel pretty insecure hearing my Dad say he was only “acting married” all those years. Was he only acting like he loved me as well ? It should keep some therapist in work for a long time with this facade family ! So so sad for all the innocent children involved and born into this mess !
I lost what little respect I had for Oprah, when she interviewed the Kartrashians and treated them like royalty. It was obscene. #justsayin’
Yup – ditto! Forgot about that one! Let’s face it the worlds going to hell in a handbasket – oy vey ! I never thought Oprah would cave like this for ratings !
Oprah needs ratings. Since the K-squad got a 40 million dollar deal for their new show, I imagine they are what people watch on tv. I caught part of the interview on YouTube and Oprah looked like she wanted to take a shower after talking to Kim K.
I don’t know Sarar, but we could ask paper towel, she did the same, ran to the post around a decade ago to bad mouth her x Harry when she lost him. Wasn’t thinking he ws the father of her son either…………no integrity, NONE
Right! And they have more than one child. How many times did he have to conceive before he realized it was all fake. Yes, it is really tough on the child, it will hurt their self esteem and make a mess of any future love relationship they have. He is a selfish man. No one makes someone stay married. Why wait til you find another girl? Why not leave once you realize your not a good match. Stupid, the things people come up with to justify their wrong.
What about the affair that she was having with his best friend? If their marriage was a sham did he whore her out to Nick too?
OT guess what time it is Romo? Bristol Motor Speedway. New/Old track. Race weekend. Its gettin crazy ova here. Schools are out tomorrow since its like a regional holiday and stuff. Momma has her house rented out and its go time.
MP: LOL!! Aaaaah… the good old days! MP, Romo, click, bitterkitten, AOM, Miles… and NASCAR! Fun times and I miss them! TFC!! SH
Yep the good old days. Bristol race attendance has been down for the last 3 races. Mom’s regular renters had quit coming so she is happy to have new ones coming. I don’t know racetracks from thumbtacks but word is that they took the track back to its older more exciting(dangerous) track to get the fans to start coming back. Nuttin like the greater possibility of some fiery wrecks to bring em in I reckon.
Woo! Good choice… wrecks are good
and bump drafting.
Lol, I was waiting for Danica to take Cartman clean out like she does those open wheel guys.
Bristol is hubs favorite! That’s cool that the kiddos get a day off school! Man
I lost respect for oprah when she had obama on her show and endorsed him, and then i found out she has a fund where she only gives money to black kids money for college no whites allowed. I didnt know we were all rich, she is a bitch.
Yes..”acting married” would be very hurtful to his children. Even if he felt that way…should have never said it. Honesty isnt the best policy when it comes to divorce and children sometimes. He should have said “fell outta love, became friends instead of lovers…”. Terrible. BTW…I never read blogs back then….anyone recall the general concensus on the Kyle / Camille thing. When Camille said Kyle said “why would anyone want to go somewhere with just you and not Kelsey”? I never believed it. Just curious if everyone was on the same page as me at the time.
Kyle never said this. Camille made it up! All Kyle said was, is Kelsey going to be there, referring to the girls trip to the Grammar home in HI.
Kate, thanks. Thats what I thought at the time. I was wondering if that was the general concensus. Always looking for ways to make sure Im not crazy.
You’re welcome! )
He’s starting to head into Crooksy territory with the balding, the nose, and the hand glued to the “lady’s” lap!! Every reaction he had was inappropriate. And even Oprah, who has to be bottom-scraping herself to interview these two POS’s, couldn’t hide her disdain.
“So you are painted as the other woman”.
Did Oprah really just say that? Did one of the wealthiest, most successful women in the world really just say that? NO SHIT, OF COURSE SHE’S THE OTHER WOMAN. He had sex with a woman while he was still married, regardless whether or not their marriage was a “sham”. Therefore, she IS the other woman.
Oh by the way Kelsey, you’re telling us that since the first day of your fourteen year long marriage, that it was all a sham from the very beginning? Who are you f’ing kidding? Go die in a ditch somewhere you piece of sh*t.
lisa is just gorgeee. isnt she? she is one of the few beautiful housewives….if not the only one
Lisa is The only beauty, but kudos to bethenny for being the original, authentic one with wit and a genuine product. I miss her, no one comes close. But I do enjoy the vanderpump
Loooove the Say Cheese Awesomely Awkward School photos item of interest.
I like the Dog Play one. Our dog doesn’t know how to act at the dog park. She gets all shy… all 80 lbs of her and just wants to sit next to us. That video had some good tips.
What makes women speak so cruelly about other women? Camille and Kelsey are really icky people. This new wife Kayte is just young and dumb like all the women he has married. Although it is said that Camille had brains and knew how to invest and increase Kelsey’s money. These are people living messy lives but for the life of me I cannot see what these women see in Kelsey; must be his money cause he surely acts like a true Queen.
At the end of the day, she was the other woman. She like so many others believed whatever was being told to her. With that typed, I don’t think she’s an unattractive woman. She isn’t some striking model or actress type, neither am I. She didn’t owe Camille a darn thing. Kelsey owed Camille. I don’t know the timeline of the birth of the Kelsey & Camille’s kids. However, I do believe they came after marriage. So I think Mr. Grammar lied to Oprah & his latest wife. The marriage wasn’t over when it started. There are two kids to erase that cop out. Mr. Grammar has a long history with some shady behavior with women. With that type Camille & his latest wife shouldn’t be crying poor me ever. Whether for love and/or money they’re fully aware of his past indiscretions. I don’t even follow the guy & I know his history.
Kelsy picks weak women so he can dominate and feel like a big man. He unfortunately bought into Camille’s poor helpless oh me act and didn’t realize she was a master manipulator and had more balls than him. That said, she did make him a fortune. He just got outplayed is all. I think she earned the money she made and not in a good way.
There was nothing “Weak” about Camille, never was. She preyed on Kelsey at a time that he was very vulnerable.
I am not excusing his behavior, but, they had a “Open Marriage” and they both slept with other people. Camille got what she wanted, the prestige of being married to Kelsey and his lifestyle.
No tears for Camille here!
well I dont know about sleeping with other people but she had no problem flirting and Kissing on that friend of hers What was his name?
That was my point Kate. She played like she was weak, but she was really predatory.
In essence that does make Camille weak, she preyed on the weak and vulnerable, didn’t have the strength or power to capture someone in a more healthy state…..you attract what u r.
Well said Girlfriend and so true.
Ha! can’t say her name??? Guess you almost choke on it thinking about all the money she got in the settlement. That’s the real reason he is sooooo pissed.
Every show I’ve seen Kelsey in, always thought he was an outstanding and gifted actor. With all the extreme personal tragedy he has known, it’s hard not to expect he would assimilate some severe coping mechanisms. It seems everything he does is with maximum intensity…… Acting, romancing, moving on…… At least Kelsey is not out there insulting Camille at every public turn. He’s cut all ties. Obviously it was painful like all the brutal, torturous murders and sudden morbid deaths of loved ones about which he refuses to speak; otherwise Kelsey would be able to face the reality of the relationship.
Well, put, Tangy. The thing that really irritates me is how Camille manipulated the public with her….Oh, poor me, my poor children BS! This was a marriage of convenience for both of them. She is a gold digger and yes, she really came away with a lot of gold!
She didnt even birth those kids a Surragate did Im not saying that makes her less of a mother just saying. She did make some rather nasty comments about Kelsey call his winkie small and said he was a cross dresser all the WHile Kelsey didnt say a negative word against her in the press anyway so If this is the first time ill give him a pass on what he said
still not for the cheating part.
He’s a moron…. Camille should be glad she’s rid of him… she can do way better. BTW I don’t think Oprah looked that good.
in the not too distant future, he will have forgotten Kayte’s name (or at least how to spell it)
I doubt it. Isn’t it tattooed just above his weewee?
Ewwwww!
pj: Please read! SH readers have known about the clothing store incident since July 20, 2011: http://stoopidhousewives.com/2011/07/21/stoopid-housewives-stuff-7-21-11-am-edition/ TFC!! SH
The email made a big impression on me and, like McKayla Maroney, I am not easily impressed.