June 20, 2012 2:30 pm
On last night’s Real Housewives of Orange County, Vicki Gunvalson was blown away when her boyfriend, David “Brooks-Crooksy” Ayers, presented Vicki with a fur.
Before Crooksy wrapped the coat around Vicki, they kissed.
If you are into body language, you will have noticed that Vicki seemed as though she expected a kiss back from Crooksy… instead, Crookys quickly pulled away from Vicki.
After Vicki was sportin’ the fur, which Vicki identified as “mink” (Crooksy never mentioned which animal pelts were used to make the magnificent covering) Vicki pulled one of Tamra Barney’s lines: ”I don’t deserve this…” BLEEECH!
However, BEFORE Vicki’s “non-deserving” proclamation, Vicki asked Crooksy if the coat was for “just tonight”… Vicki was thrilled that she could keep it forever!
Crooksy says in the car that the fur was the nicest gift he’s ever given anyone…
There has been discussion re where Crooksy purchased Vicki’s fur. From the photos, it looks like the furrier is “Bizakis Fur”…
NOTE: WHY is Vicki so thrilled with Crooksy’s gift??? Vicki has her own money and could certainly afford to buy herself fifty fur coats…
There is no way Crooks bought her that coat. She either paid for it herself or the furrier provided it for ‘promotional consideration’. Is he still behind on child support payments? If so, even giving the impression that he paid for something so extravagant is shameful. Brooks is a kept man, there is no doubt about that. I just wonder whether Vicki pays by the inch or by the hour.
One more thing: he should have bought her a bra, ‘cuz her girls are sagging all over the place!
He said “For tonight” and when she asked if it was for just the night or could she keep i he said “For you” Still a non-answer.
i caught that part…. I think many people missed it, but he clearly said for tonight, and she said, could she keep it and he never really gave a solid yes. I bet he borrowed it for the night. and also, he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place because if he truly did buy it, but didn’t use that lump sum to pay on his arrears in child support, that really makes him look like crap. ugh. Poor vic, i think she’s desperate. I hope I don’t get like that when I get older. So eager and lonely that I pay for a man or try to buy him…
maybe by flashing the furriers logo he got a deal?
I agree he clearly said for tonight
i noticed that too! i hit rewind too many times to comfortable admit…he clearly said “for tonight”. besides, if you buy a gift like that, you put it in a box with a bow (maybe he couldn’t afford one) you don’t hand it off in the manner in which he did. he’s gross and she’s as delusional as new jersey’s teresa.
OMG! I am dying. By the inch or by the hour! Funny stuff. The guy can’t even rent a car when he comes to town. There’s no way on God’s green earth he bought that. Vicki is trying so hard to get us to like him but…..no, we don’t and we won’t. He creeps me out. I’m just waiting for the fallout when (if) Vicki comes to her senses. And yes, you should care if your kids like him or not. You’ve always said how smart and wonderful Brianna is (I agree) so freakin’ listen to her. I hope Donn is at the Havasu house banging a major babe.
lol
brilliant!!!!! by inch or by hour. it’s by hour although it’s not worth the price. apparently he can impregnate but satisfy is another matter. Vicki is not concerned about sexual prowess as a prerequisite for a relationship. she is probably not focused on pleasing her man or herself getting pleased. she is into the” idea ” of being loved rather than the real thing that love is which requires effort not just words. and a lot of tolerance and negotiating
but I agree with salmoncakes. inch or hours is a great phrase!!!!!!
Interesting that when I went on the “Bizakis Fur” website, it was suspended. Here are the reviews, though. Maybe it isn’t a forever gift? He doesn’t have a job, car or a house. I wonder if that is true?
A Google User reviewed a month ago
Overall 3 / 3
Bizakis Furs is amazing and they have the BEST PRICES! The couple who now own it are very genuine and sweet people, they work with your budget and give the best quality!
A Google User reviewed 8 months ago
Overall 3 / 3
I found the service to be excellent, and the furs to be of high quality. Bizakis really works with your budget, your style, and goes through your concerns methodically — be it repairs, new purchases, or custom, bespoke orders. Their storage is very reasonably priced, and I can walk in any time to pick up my fur, check it back in, with no limits, no timetable… like a personal closet! Very happy with BF.
Does the fact that we see the store/brand (I actually can’t read it) mean that it was a promotional item and Brookes didn’t pay for it??….anyone in the know?
Bingo!
Was a “shout out” given to Bizakis Fur rolling in the credits? It was loaned to him for the night. This was Vicki’s way to try & shut everyone up that he’s using Vics. Sorry Vic. It didn’t work.
Dear Vicki, the proper response to being given the lovely coat is to say, thank you brooks, it is a lovely thought, please return it and split the money with ur baby mamas.
Agreed!!!
Brooks looks like he is seeing it for the first time when he presents it to her. His eyes are more focused on it than on her. If he bought it and if it was the “nicest thing he has ever given someone” his delight would be in watching her reaction. Not eyeballing the fur.
He was probably wondering how much it would bring him if he sold. I’m sure all he sees is dollar signs.
Love Ana’s comment!!
It makes sense that it was a loaner considering it was in a garment bag. It’s getting harder to watch these HW shows.
yeah, wouldnt it come in a box with a big pretty bow on it?
I’m glad it didn’t have a bow, Sarah would have eaten it.
buahahaha! good one, BSL!
Time for a hug! Hope you’re doing well.
Yep! And if it was in a pretty box, wrapped with a bow on top, we wouldn’t have saw the fur company’s logo would we? I have a few bags like this, and the logo is only on ONE side. How convenient that the side that has the logo is the one that he shows as he walks in. I’m still siding that it was a loaner from an individual or rental, and maybe even a rental from a consignment shop and not even necessarily from this particular store. And how does someone like Icki, who has never owned a fur (she said) know it is mink?
Wouldnt it be sumpin if Jeana loaned it to her encoraging Crooks to claim he bought it so he gets egg on his face from his creditors and Jeana and Donn can have themselves a lil giggle?
Sorry to jump in your convo. MP, just had a friend of Vicki’s tweet me, saying what a lovely person she is. Guess I really hit a nerve.
You betchya! (((((hugs to BSL)))))) All is good! Hope all is well with you too!
You’re making me laugh! Thanks for the huggy. Glad all is well.
I second that. OMG these comments are funny today. I LOVE ripping on Crooks and Vicki!!!!!!
Now THAT”S funny!
Funny!
holy crap, i love that comment!! cleaver….i bow down to you!!
The whole thing is just creepy however I found him lurking behind the background of every party scene even creepier.
Really, who wears furs anymore??? Yuck
I do! When it can get downright frigid and I have to go to events, nothing keeps me warmer. Seriously.
But in Orange county? Does it ever get cold enough to wear fur in Orange County?
It absolutely does NOT ever get cold enough for a fur here. I live just a few blocks from Vicki and I wouldn’t be caught dead in a fur even if it started snowing here every day and night. All of the luxuries on this show- limos, diamonds, everything- are loaned for promotional purposes and it’s embarrassing for us REAL housewives of Orange County to be thought of this way.
Do you ever bump into any of them Deb? I.e. out shopping, etc? Just had to ask, hope you don’t mind?
I’ve seen Jeana at a local italian restaurant, Vicki at the grocery store, and Lauri and George at the mall before they got married and she wisely left the show. I don’t mind you asking at all, I just hope you don’t think of any of them as actual celebs!
Thanks Deb! No I don’t think of them like that at all. I’ve met a few famous ppl, football players, actors etc, the best was meeting Lee Evans (There’s something about Mary, he played Tucker/Norman Phipps), Lee was lovely, so down to earth and genuine and chatted for ages on his own without burly body guards, posing for pictures just after doing a stand up gig!
I was asking as I would imagine that some of them would walk around the area acting like a celeb at times. I once passed an actress in a city close to where I live, she was only in a small time soap but had caked herself in about an inch of makeup and surrounded herself with body guards! I thought it was one of the most funniest things I’d seen. Just wondered how the OC women compare to something like that?
I agree.. Since I have been coming to this site, TY, I love it.. I have noticed signs on everything, cars, cakes, jewelry, they get free advertisement, where There is a way for freebies, Bravo and her bunch of wanna bees something, ( I don’t see what) .. They get it.. These shows are getting me sick, can’t watch women take us ladies down anymore… But I will continue coming here.
I’m not talking about OC — I live in NJ and it can indeed get downright bitter in Jan/Feb. And my response was obviously to someone who is anti-fur no matter where you live.
I’m from S.D. It gets really cold in the morning frost on the grass and everything and once the sun goes down. I’m in WI now so I have a fur that goes to the floor. It’s the only way I leave the house in sub-zero weather. I thank everyone of those silver foxes that died for my comfort every time I am toasty and warm in a blizzard!
Did any one notice that the style of the coat was from like the 70′s very boxy. Coats are more tailored now and the collar makes me think this is a used coat. My mink has a much shorted smoother nap. Is it even a mink?
So you’re not only into killing foxes but minks too. I live in the Midwest and wearing a fur is so crass, you might as well be a pole dancer. Even more so in LA.
I can assure you I’m not a pole dancer. I don’t mind that you disagree about wearing fur but you could have kept the insults to yourself. Calling me a pole dancer is crass and uncalled for.
Cyn, “Mojo” is a typical anti-fur ignoramus, judgmental and intolerant.
I live in the Midwest and furs are not considered crass. It is a personal choice. Women in my family own furs. I do think it is actually a good thing to keep a fur and pass it down or share it, rather than buy new. If an animal was killed 30 years ago, tossing out your fur now makes no sense.
I dont believe anyone should wear a fur to kill an animal just to keep warm i think is horrible. Im not here to start an arguement about it i just think its wrong and thats my opinion on this subject. T
I don’t agree with wearing fur’s either, it’s very 1970′s/80′s. Technology has improved that we do not need to kill animals for their fur. Think of the most extreme cold conditions on the planet, I don’t recall seeing anyone climbing Mt. Everest, trekking across the pole in a fur. If I owned a fur from 30 years ago, I would bin it. It shows that I have accepted that times, perspectives and attitudes have moved on. A few years ago I watched an undercover programme about mink farming and skinning, some were skinned alive, still think it’s acceptable?
Good for you. I hope you feel good about yourself, being so modern. I, however, have no problem being “very 1970′s/80s” in certain aspects. Works for me — an individual choice, which is absolutely irrelevant to anybody else except myself.
Each to their own as the saying goes. However, to wear fur to ‘keep warm’ is not a valid reason IMO. Man made fibre’s can do a much better job. It comes down to vanity. Being the animal lover that I am, I’m totally against it. Women look more stunning without a dead animal wrapped around their shoulders. JMO.
Bev — and Jerry, you both do have really valid points. And thanks for that.
Listen — I would imagine you both (and potentially other readers) may be vegans or aspire as such; today it is so easy! I can actually eat seitan and soy (meat alternatives) until the End of Days!
So I want to share a most awesome cookbook (sorry, “Tre!”). It’s called “You Won’t Believe It’s Vegan!” by Lacey Sher and Gail Doherty. More than 200 recipes. They started a restaurant in Red Bank (NJ) — now called Good Karma Cafe. I’m addicted. My all-time fave dish is Seitan Satay. (Great, now I’m slobbering over here.)
Anywhoozle — I think you can purchase this book on Amazon. Happy eating!
BB: And I think Lapband Lauren woulda looked a lot better in that pic from the other day without BGG’s huge mitt draped around her shoulders!!
Thanks Lisa, I’ll have a look for that. I was veggie for a long long time but ended up getting ill with anemia even though taking suppliments, so on doc’s orders had to start eating it again. There are still some meats I won’t eat, i.e. veal, venison, rabbit or where it is sourced, i.e. halal meat. My daughter has just decided to become veggie though so the book will definately help her. In all fairness too I have worn Faux fur which was a gift & came in handy until I got a new one after one of my dogs decided to ‘redesign’ a loved winter coat! Thanks again x
Now now Mojo… name calling is completely unnecessary! If you don’t want to play in the sandbox, kindly take your pail and shovel and run along. I really find it obnoxious when people insult other people’s comments on these blogs. Arrrgh!!!
Not: You are correct… there is no attacking other commenters on SH! If anyone needs to know the rules: http://stoopidhousewives.com/about/the-rules-please-read/ TFC!! SH
I often wondered why the housewives do not try the raw food diet. It isn’t a diet but a lifestyle. It is like natural botox. My husband and I have been on it for four months and so many changes have occurred. He lost 20 lbs. and his face is clearing of wrinkles. He said my eyes look young again and we feel great. After two years of no cycles, I finally got mine. Our personalities have mellowed and we are off of all prescription drugs. If you google the raw food diet you can see it can cure just about everything from cancer to depression. We have found so many recipes with just fruits, veggies, herbs, nuts, seeds and sprouts. We only drink distilled water with lemons and juice (blend) a lot. Nothing is cooked above 107 degrees or it will kill most of the nutrients. We dehydrate things that are delicious. Cocao powder is one of the healthiest foods in the world and we can add it to recipes that makes natural ice-cream and shakes. Everything we eat is from a plant, but in its most natural state. We also only get organic because of the GMO’s and the nutrient content is so much higher.
Mojo: Welcome!!! Kindly read: http://stoopidhousewives.com/about/the-rules-please-read/ TFC!! SH
See what I noticed was that Vicki was saying in her blog several weeks ago that her and Briana were getting along much better now and that she’s accepting Brooks. Then she posted pics from the cruise they just went on. Did anyone else notice last night that they were taking the “cruise” photos at Heather’s house?
Funny how good ‘ol Crooks thinks.”that’s the nicest gift I have ever given someone”. Who says that?? The best gift my hubs ever gave me was my daughter.
But when this scene was all BS anyway & he never even bought the dang thang I guess it doesn’t matter.
Ok. A – who wears mink in Orange County? B – he’s just gross and she’s a flaming hypocrite so there’s that. And C – If the opportunity presented itself, I don’t think I could refrain from giving her a high five. In the face. With a chair. And then saying “why you so…stoopid????” Gah!
yelp review for bizakis fur… I paid Bizakis Furs in full twice for cleaning and storing a fur ($185 x 2). First when I left the fur and they asked to be paid again when I picked it up months later. Since I could not remember if I already paid, I paid a second time. Days later when I showed Tony (the owner) that I paid twice, he said that he would refund the money. It is over six months later and I still have not received a refund. I am out $185.00
Laws a mercy that sure does sound like rich people problems to me.
Xoxo, MP. Could listen to this the whole damn day.
Its a classic.
On replay in Crooks car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeUuoxyt_E
Anyone notice Brooks took the garment bag with him into the limo as they were leaving? Kind of weird because who would put their fur back into the garment bag at a party? Why not just leave it at ol’ Vick’s house since it’s “hers to keep”
No, i can’t believe i didn’t catch that… but what i did catch was how he presented it to her. He told her for the night, and she said can I keep it, and he really didn’t give a solid Yes… he almost mumbled or something. but it wasn’t a yes. i bet it was a loaner.
Yes i did notice him in the limo folding it up i thought that was a little strange.
Yes, I got that; but also, I think Tamara commented that Brooks has a joint bank account with Vicki!…so, he used HER money to rent her the mink. For goodness sake, what kind of man lets a woman take complete control of his wardrobe, and let’s her pay for his dental work!! She said once that she loved him the way he was as she is spending bookoos of money remaking him into what she thinks is her perfect man! I feel very sorry for this woman. She is trying too hard to put on this “I am so happy” image. She is not aging gracefully.
At least the old lady fur covered that AWFUL dress
haha, so true. TOO bad Sarah isn’t a member of PETA. That would have been so much better than the sugar nonsense.
Yes i agree, is it me or does sarah always look drunk? She always slurring her words, and walks like an old cowboy. I watched it last night and when she said to alexis i will go w u i was like it didnt sound like she was invited? Who goes to a party or brings someone who isnt invited?
She dresses like a teen who doesn’t have much taste. I used to admire her but either
Bravo is paying her to lose her good sense for the camera or she really is.
It sure was a terrible dress with that gathering and slit in the rear that bisected her butt. Old lady fur- hahaha!
I also forgot to check for promotional consideration credits. That still does not matter. It could have been a fur owned by someone on the production crew, a loaner, rental. And why would he bring the bag back into the car? And who gives a luxurious gift like this, the minute someone is walking out the door to a party and doesn’t even gift wrap it? Just because he says, ‘most expensive gift I’ve ever gave..’ does not mean he paid for it. That was my take away from this. I think it’s all BS and may not even have anything to do with Bravo. Vicky herself may have wanted to make sure Crooksy appeared to have his own money, because she’s bothered by everyone’s (legitimate) concerns. With that said, the lashback result of this is A) no one believes that he actually bought it and fuels the faux that we all already know exists on RH or B) someone that he owes money to is going to see this and WTF! and truth will all come out one way or the other. Not the first time that footage from a reality television show was used in a courtroom or as evidence, in general. (You guys remember that 16 & pregnant chick who pushed or hit her fiance???)
She probably phoned him and said “the camera’s are not ready, go once round the block again, then bring it in, say you’ve bought it and so on”…. 3,2,1 Bravo Camera’s roll!
This is totally true, not to mention if he isn’t current on his support, now he really looks like a deadbeat azz.
I dont think anyone believed that he paid for that fur, i believe it was a big setup maybe even by bravo the truth always seems to come out sooner or later. I dont mean to correct u but i thought he said thats the nicest gift i ever gave someone. I would never buy a fur i just dont believe in them but if i gave an expensive gift like that i would of had them put it in a nice box w a big bow on it. To me it looked like he just got back from the dry cleaners and just handed to her.
Wings…..you may be onto something……a new reality show tied in with the popo…..they put all the crooks they been chasin but can’t “officially” catch…..and have producer induced family and friends rat them all out on tv!
What does she need a fur like that for? The coldest of cold day in socal wouldn’t be cold enough for it. Fur doesn’t travel well. Way to bulky and she would have to declare it if she took it overseas.
She should habe bought some diamonds for brooks to give to het.
Of course she doesn’t need it and he didn’t buy it. No one with any self-respect and sense wears real fur. Evidenced by Alexis also showing up at Heather’s party wearing it. And as for this supposed boyfriend of Vicki’s purchasing power, why doesn’t someone (like Vicki, maybe?) figure out what he does for a living, where he lives, how much he makes and why he’s “not after (her) money.” I’m betting he doesn’t work to keep from paying child support, and he sleeps on people’s couches. Vicki’s daughter and Tamra are dead-on about that guy. Sad that Vicki’s so needy that he looks good to her. And wonder how he felt about Vicki saying if Don would take her back, she’d go? That woman’s a hot mess.
I agree w/all points made. and tamra and vicks daughter called it right. the guy is avoiding support, he knows if he gets a regular job with his social, they’ll clean his check and leave him w/two quarters. He’s a dead beat. Pay for ur kids. My goodness. and if he really bought the coat, just saying, (even tho we know he DIDN’T BUY IT. LOL) but if he did, imagine how that looks to his kids and his child support. Vick is desperate, lonely and cougarish…. buying a man in order to keep him around. If i were her, I’d get back w/don and live in reality. She had a good life w/him, but she seemed ungrateful. Heck, I’d take Don myself if i could. Nice company, home, mellow personality, etc. She’s a fool. I feel sorry for her. because he acts like he’s using her. She’s so needy… ugh.
I’m slightly older than Vicki and while I respect her as a businesswoman, I’m afraid that must be where all her sense and judgement lies. Anyone who would crash her son’s dorm room and humiliate him will also take up with any guy who pays attention to her. It’s always all about her. It’s beyond clear that she needs counseling, therapy, an intervention, whatever it takes to make her see what everyone else does.
I totally agree w both of u ladies except for the part that u would feel sorry for her, i really dont. I know that sounds mean but she was really a bitch to donn and i believe him to be a really gd and nice guy. Saying all that i do hope she just admits she was wrong about this guy lets him go and spends sometime alone like she should of done in the first place. Ty.
Didn’t she also talk crap about Tamra’s ex, Simon, when he wasn’t making that much money and they had to do a short sale on their house. Didn’t she say something to the effect of he (Simon) needs to get a job. She had no patience for a man who was struggling financially. Well, Brooks can’t even keep up on his child support payments, let alone keep himself in teeth. Oh, but he can buy her a fur so that must mean he is a great guy.
She was constantly on Tamra for Simon not having a job and constantly on Gretchen for Slade not paying his child support. She claims to want to be mellow and get along with everybody, but she’s alienated everyonefrom her neighbor Jeana to her own daughter Breana. Now, she’s being nice to Alexis, but I think she spots a weak one there. It’ll only be a matter of time before that friendship goes south too. It’s like she can’t stand to see anyone happier than she feels, but she’s never really been happy and probably won’t be, because she needs serious help. I can’t believe someone as vulnerable and with such low self-esteem has stayed on this show so we all see the train wreck. Reality shows are obviously marriage killers, but nobody wants to see a mental breakdown.
She was acting so strange in Costa Rica. When she started crying when they were planting the trees and talked about how everyone was going to die someday. I thought it would be a repeat of Kellie Besimon’s breakdown on Scary Island.
I don’t know what is going on with her, but she definitely isn’t right in the head.
Hard to know sometimes how much of the drama is semi-scripted, a result of too much alcohol, or is real. With Vicki, it’s obvious she’s a sad, needy, lonely person whose got 2 ex- husbands and kids who have left home. Maybe she should look into adoption to fill her heart and home, or maybe she should just hire a good therapist and spend her money to get her head straight. I’ve never felt sorry for her before, and all of her Woo-Hooing over the years has gotten on my last nerve. But, I have to say I do feel bad for her now. That doesn’t mean she should go around screaming at people she once was besties with, or accusing her new son-in-law of taking her daughter away. If you’re reading this, Vicki, take it as constructive criticism. Or at least stay off TV until you get it together.
Adoption is the last thing Vicki needs to be considering. Suprised the producers haven’t tried to float that one with her yet though.
Oh definitely, I know. I shouldn’t have even said that. She’s far too into her job to raise any more kids. Plus, I read that Breana’s pregnant so Vicki will have a grand baby to fawn over and brag about- or not.
It looks like she already adopted… Crooks! She pays his way & he does what he is told. Perfect combo right there.
Not to mention that she and the rest of the RHs get paid hundreds of thousands per season. If Vicki’s as savvy with money as she claims to be, why is she spending hers on Crooks’ nasty teeth? The fact that his choppers were in the shape they were should’ve been a huge red flag that he doesn’t have 2 nickels to rub together. A deadbeat dad and a guy who has swept in from out of nowhere to lavish her with endless sickening remarks. Even worse, he talks about her kids like he’s known them forever and “loves” them too. Eeeeewww. It makes me crazy to think Vicki could be so blind and dumb just to keep from being alone. Real women buck up when times are tough. Get a grip, girl, and be by yourself for awhile! It won’t kill you, and could save your relationship with your kids – which is the only important one in the end anyway.
Wearing a fur is asking for red spray paint in California. I’ll bet that old fur came outta the back of Vicki’s closet and was a “pretend” gift. And……even worse……wearing a fur coat would date you (old lady!).
Notice how that only happens in CaliFORny. Let someone try that crap here and they will find themselves gettin an old fashion kounrty ass whoopin.
Why would Brooks arrive at Vicki’s in a limo since HE LIVES THERE?
Because he picked up the fur from the rental co. (in the Bravo Limo) & then arrived at her house as if he did not live there. AND, if my husband gave me such a lavish gift, I wouldn’t ask “do I get to keep it?” Would anyone say that unless they suspected it was rented??
Hi, British Bev — the thread was getting way too skinny/hard to read. You are welcome. Yes, there may be the danger of anemia when eating a vegetarian/vegan diet. It’s probably best to cycle organic/Halal/Kosher lean proteins in the diet. It may cost more, but it is tastier and healthier (no chemicals or antibiotics, etc.). Enjoy!
I totally get you! Keep taking the supplements under your physician’s knowledge; they do ltierally “supplement” the diet. I do know that some leafy veggies like kale and spinach (I believe) are higher in iron than others. Perhaps a yummy Tofu Florentine may work!
Speaking of odd eats — there are some people in northern New Jersey who eat squirrel!
And thank you very much for sharing the link — off to read it right now.
When I lived in LA they ate anything you could hunt squirrel, possum, raccoon,alligator
We just started raising our own meat, poultry and fish. We already have our garden and started canning for the winter. At least this way I know what I’m getting and less expensive. I’m turning into a farmer in my old age.
I got my garden planted too… I can not wait to have some fresh salsa on the patio, with my neighbors raving how good it taste… Sorry, got off the subject, just dreaming a little, it’s raining here in Michigan!
Lisa, I know the link is hard and upsetting reading, so apologies for that. Seaweed is a good source of iron too I have heard.
Original, good for you. I wish I had the land to grow my own veg, couldn’t do the meat side of things though. Unfortunately as soon as I planted anything the dogs would be digging it back up lol. I’m sure I read somewhere that the UK has it’s first aligator farm for it’s meat. There is a cultural difference, we have game hunters here, for pheasant, wild boar but it’s not huge and the majority are against it. My fiance is American and he’s said hunting is much more common in the US. Even to fish in the UK you have to have a licence and pay to enter the area (usually gated off) to fish, not having one would result in arrest and being fined!
I know it’s crazy but I need a license to fish in the pond I created on my own land. I don’t know anyone that hunts that doesn’t use it for food. I am heartbroken that they have approved the hunting of my beloved cranes that nest here. You have to take the good with the bad.
The fur was so tacky and gross i was just shocked anyone would be proud to be wearing one!
Vicky said that she doesn’t agree with Tamara jumping in so quick – what about her, she was running around with this douche before she even left Don and the ONLY reason she isn’t engaged to crooks is because she is still married – watch how fast he pops the question once the papers are signed. If a man I’m dating ever asked me about what I would walk away with financially from a divorce I would run for the hills!!! Can we spell stupid!!!
You’re so right about the pot calling the kettle black here. And she really is not just stupid (stoopid!) she’s naive, enabling, and will undoubtedly buy herself the biggest rock possible when her divorce is final and she proposes to Crooks. Even if she’s getting along with her kids at the moment, this is a terrible example of how an adult should behave, much less on national television.
I’m gonna have to break out of the pack for a minute and just say that even though I know
everything here is true….I have to go back several seasons to Vicki’s mom and say that I honestly believe that she never got what she needed from her mother and that is likely a huge reason for her neediness with men. Remember her mom wouldn’t even tell her she loved her after Vicki said it and she was harassing her about her hair color etc? So, in one respect I do believe that Vicki did break that chain with her kids, bc I can see how hard she has tried to make them feel loved…so I have to give her props for that…and the man thing…yeah…she’s gotta figure that out for herself and I really think with Brooks she will,but it might take time……that’s all…..awww….just carry on yall
Oh, I do remember that. It was tough to watch, just like when asked told Don, both of her kids, and various other people to tell her they love her. I had an extremely odd childhood and married the first time at 18 to escape my dysfunctional home, but that didn’t last and I moved on, grew up, and figured out who I was. Vicki is a successful woman at work, but she buried herself in that and ruined what appeared to be a good marriage to Don. She even says she’d go back to him if he asked her. I think this Brooks character is just saying what she wants and needs to hear, but he’s got nothing to back it up. I’d live to think that Vicky could live someone for who they are and not what they have to offer materially, but we all know that isn’t true. No car, no job, no house, child support in arrears, and few teeth. Does a sprinkling of compliments and sweet nothings make up for that? Maybe if it was coming from a different guy, and later on after she’s on her own for awhile, but this one is just wrong. Super creepy, insincere and opportunistic.
I’d like to interject in the whole fur-gate for a minute.
I live in the Uk (hey Brit Bev) and it gets very cold. I have 3 furs: one my hubby bought me, one my mum gave me, and one given to me by my mother in law. I love them, they are warm, cosy and I wear them a lot, all throughout the winter. The anti-fur movement is very vocal here, but I will not be intimidated and harassed by people who happen to have a different point of view than I do. Where would that stop? Next thing you know, random strangers will dictate you what to eat, what cleaning products to use or make up brands to buy! It’s nobody’s business what anybody is wearing and people should live and let others live in peace instead of telling them what to do. What is this, the bloody Taliban??
Apart from that I’d like to say that this particular fur is hideous and wearing a fur in southern California is freaking stupid. But each to their own.
Vicki is an ugly person inside and out ~
She will never be a contented soul ~
I am embarrassed by her… Gloating over a fur was the last straw for me!
It looks like Brooks has a Hook for a hand in that second photo. lol.
That fur did look old and in an out dated style. But the telling issue I did notice why take the bag with him into the car unless that coat had to be returned at midnight like the glass slipper. And to have to ask if it is for tonight or can I keep it speaks so much.