June 14, 2012 10:55 am HuffPo…
“In the end, we won’t know if Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Taylor Armstrong was a willing participant in her deceased husband’s efforts to defraud a medical records company or if he really coerced her to cooperate with his threats of violence.
But what we do know, now that the matter has been settled out of court, is that the housewife who once spent $60,000 on her daughter’s fourth birthday party is in such financial straits that not even her Hermès Birkin bags are real.
Armstrong and MyMedicalRecords.com last month reached a settlement, which the two parties signed on May 25 and May 26, respectively, that required Armstrong to turn over “valuable” personal property to partially recompense MMR for more than $1 million the company says it lost at the hands of the Armstrongs. We’re not talking sprawling estates, luxury sedans, or yachts here.
It’s more like an engagement ring, (yes, the one that wound up on eBay—more on that later), two designer bags (wink, wink), and a banknote. The case was scheduled to go to trial in Los Angeles Superior Court on July 11. “After many meetings with their side and going through various forms of settlement conversations, it became obvious that even if we won the battle, we could lose the war since collectability from Taylor at $1.5 million or more was questionable,” said Robert Lorsch, CEO of MMR, a service providing secure online access to an individual or family’s medical history.“So…we began the process of negotiating for personal property that we were told had very high values and a note for a nominal amount of money in case we didn’t get anything we bargained for.”The lawsuit, filed in July, alleged that Russell Armstrong, who owned 60 percent of MMR’s stock and raised investor capital for the startup, pocketed investor money with his wife’s assistance. Russell Armstrong was eventually ousted from MMR through a legal settlement in which he paid the company $250,000, relinquished all of his shares, and he and Taylor Armstrong were required to disclose every investor from whom they had received money.When MMR discovered three investors with legitimate claims who had been left out, the company sued Russell Armstrong for $1.5 million. But he committed suicide two weeks later, leaving his wife of six years to deal with the legal mess by herself.Armstrong declined to comment about the settlement through her personal lawyer John Bluher but maintained in court papers that she was coerced into signing the original agreement with MMR under “duress and threat of physical harm.”In her book, Hiding From Reality—My Story of Love, Loss, and Finding the Courage Within, Armstrong describes in graphic detail the violent abuse she suffered at the hands of her husband. As part of the lawsuit’s settlement, MMR also received a “representation” from Armstrong that she has no deals in the works or any expected sources of income of any consequence, besides her job on the Bravo hit Real Housewives, for a period of time.“The idea was we didn’t want to sign an agreement, take the ring, buy into this poverty story, and all of a sudden find out she signed a million-dollar deal,” Lorsch said. “That to us was a substantive part of the settlement and could leave the door open for more in the future.”So what exactly did MMR walk away with? The centerpiece is Armstrong’s 10 carat yellow stone diamond ring, which was valued at $251,000 and became tabloid fodder when MMR quickly tried to auction it on eBay and Armstrong’s camp complained to TMZ that Taylor Armstrong wanted to give the ring to her daughter and “feels she’s been backed into a corner because of Russell’s misdeeds.“Knowing our experience with the Armstrongs in the past, we trusted very little so we add the [banknote] at the last minute when there was no paperwork on the bags.”The ring wound up with its own little story after eBay stopped the auction and closed MMR’s account, and the personal health records company found itself having to prove it did, in fact, have ownership of the ring. Eventually, eBay reinstated the account.The listing is not live now, as MMR has decided to wait for a second appraisal of the ring to be completed. MMR was criticized on sites for trying to capitalize on Taylor Armstrong’s fame in the listing: “This ring has been seen on television! This is your chance to own a piece of Hollywood history!”
“We believed it was in our best interest as a publicly traded company to maximize the value of the property as quickly as possible for the benefit of shareholders,” Lorsch explained. “So we decided to put it on eBay, where anyone in America [or the world] would have a chance to buy the ring and own a piece of television history. It’s a very flashy, desirable piece of jewelry.”
In a way, MMR shouldn’t be blamed for trying to cash in as fast as possible. Already in the hole over its business dealings with at least Russell Armstrong, it didn’t take the company long to figure out that the two Hermès Birkin bags Taylor Armstrong relinquished were not what they seemed.“The Birkin bags turned out to be fakes from a real housewife,” Lorsch said.
“Knowing our experience with the Armstrongs in the past, we trusted very little so we add the [banknote] at the last minute when there was no paperwork on the bags. At the end of the day, I think we will do OK with the ring…it got the case settled. We didn’t want to go out and spend over $100,000 at trial and maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to recover [damages]. For us the chapter is closed.”














If the bags are fakes then chances are the ring is fake also. Why couldn’t the MMR people strip her of any and all proceeds she made from the book? It wouldn’t make a dent in what she owes but neither is that dadburn ring.
MP, the MMR case hadn’t gone to trial, so they didn’t have any type of judgment against Shana. The ring and fake purses were part of a settlement made in lieu of the trial. My guess is that Shana had the proceeds she made from the book well protected corporately or in trust.
MMR covered themselves to go after future earnings in that they received a “representation” from Shana that she had no prospects for substantial income other
than Bravo. If indeed Shana does get a source of funds, they can haul her into court immediately under penalty of perjury. She’ll pay, rather than face criminal charges.
Thanks for clearing that up CJ. They should have taken a huge chunk of her Bravo income too. As well as the proceeds from the sale of whatever domicile she currently resides in. Woman belongs in a cardboard box out on skid row but I wouldn’t want to subject the homeless population to her evil.
She is evil personified.
I often wonder if anyone, i.e. a stable relative, a teacher, a friend’s parent, or CCPS has EVER checked on the welfare of Kennedy? (Lizard Lips, what about YOU?!!) With Shana’s evident mental health disorder AND repeated instances of aggression, incoherence, and inability to stand up and walk properly due to copious amounts of alcohol, that’s a very toxic brew–and consequently a disaster-in-the-making for a 6 y.o. child with only one parent.
So how long can they go after her future earnings?
I’ve commented on this blog before, I find some of what you say funny, “tongue in cheek”, but sometimes I just have a hard time understanding where you are coming from. You put Shana/Taylor , whatever, Armstrong down for buying expensive things, then you put her down for buying lookalikes. Can’t you just give credit where credit is due sometimes? I’m not saying she’s the greatest, I just don’t think every choice someone makes has to be put down.
I’m finding it harder and harder to come back here and read your posts, some of which I enjoy, some I find painfully….well, kinda mean. I really enjoyed your comments about Teresa and Alexis, seeing the person from all angles. It’s nice to read a more compassionate perspective.
Well Taylor has represented herself/Husband as “RICH AS TEXAS” So yes its funny that she is exposed as a Poser who buys fake Birkins and passes them off as real.
Testing
I see you Lisa. Let er rip!
Oooh, yeah!
I’m gonna refresh every few min., Lisa, to read your next post.
See to bad you all cant get all excited like this when i Talk about Chewbacca Guidice
lol.
Don’t forget Taylor said in her very first intro she was one of THE Bloomfield Hills Fords. Any other time, she would move on to another scam, change her name/personal history. Problem is Taylor’s too well known for that now. The people with $$$ won’t have her. She’ll move in on vulnerable, unsuspecting elderly person with that phony tale of woe.
Drunk or pretending to be sober, Taylor is still TRASH. I don’t doubt there was violence in the Taylor/Russell marriage. I’d say she’s fresponsible for instigating 99% of it.
Most of us will always always be “mean” when it comes to Shanna. I think she belongs in jail. And I hope with everything in me that her lying on court documents about the value of the paltry goodies that she forfeited will help land her there. She cant blame Russel for that. I wont even give her credit for wiping her butt properly. No one redeeming quality at all.
photomom82, reading about everything Shana has done to others is painful. It is painful to realize this woman has a six year old daughter that needs a loving home and stable environment. I, along with many other here have hoped she would get the help she needs, stop the nonsense and make her child her number one priority. Unfortunately, that does not appear to be the case.
Perfectly stated, CJ!
Kennedy Armstrong’s welfare is a serious concern, and should be Shana’s top priority. Instead, Shana was badly intoxicated at Portia’s fake birthday party (since it was held long after her real birthday… but, I digress….), and Kennedy was present to witness that mess. Imagine Kennedy’s confusion and distress! Obviously she has seen her mother drunk on many occasions, but the embarrassing spectacle of having Shana blitzed at a little girl’s birthday party? The road ahead for Kennedy is not going to be an easy one, and I ache for her because nobody in her sphere of influence seems to be doing a dang thing to protect her from her mother’s truly awful behavior–and evident mental issues.
Despite the crushing stories in the press about the birthday party debacle, Shana was drunk again when the “girls” went off to Ojai for a spa weekend and she went toe-to-toe w/ Brandy over Brandy’s upcoming book. Who cares about another HW book?!!! Shana needs to provide stability for her 6 y.o. child whose father hasn’t even been dead for a year yet. These are just a few of the reasons I find Shana Armstrong to be intolerable, and precisely why I will not watch RHoBH until she is completely off the program.
She needs to be out of the limelight. Period.
I agree with you. She needs help, and that poor little girl, someone rescue her!
I think it’s difficult to show compassion for a compassionless person…..
Well said, well said. I am so weary of people playing devil’s advocate. Shanna has no redeeming qualities and has done nothing to make people feel sorry for her. Her fake handbags are another example of her trying to fit in where she doesn’t belong. What’s wrong with getting a real job and living in a modest apartment and being there when her daughter needs her. That poor kid probably wakes up every night with nightmares.
I dont think “having nightmares” is on her chore chart
Unfortunately, the chore chart has probably been revised. Everything has been replaced with get mommy a glass of wine when her glass is empy. The box has been moved to the lowest shelf in the frig so you can reach it.
no doubt, im sure it says wipe up mommies vomit somewhere
OMG, lets hope not. That poor child has probably seen more than any six year old should. My heart just goes out to that little girl. Losing a father in such a horrible manner and having to live with an alcholic psycho of a mother.
She exploited her husband and cashed in on his death. This woman has been caught in several lies and is a manipulative person. I don’t see any reason why someone should go out of their way to (try) to find ‘nice’ things to write about someone when they clearly don’t deserve it. This woman is horrendous – especially putting her little girl through it all. She needs to compose herself, go away, and take care of her daughter. Almost all of those housewives have real and fake items – who cares?!
Find things to say nice about her It would take a team from Mensa to do that
I wonder if Steven Hawkling is busy he might find something redeeming about troutpout
I always think of Who when I see that picture of Taylor & Dana. He is so right that Dana looks like Peter Falk.
Oh BTW can someone expplain the Banknote to me Im not sure I understand how that works
I was wondering the same thing.
BTW, I vaguely remember a battle of sorts re: some property that Russell and Taylor rented. They had it all redecorated (to their taste) even though it wasn’t cleared through the owners (and it was clearly not their taste), and the huge expense was passed on, I believe, to the owner. Does anyone else remember the details of that?
The bank note is a question. Also, what about her speakers’ fees for the lectures on DV being garnished for MMR victims?
Personally I don’t think mentioning in the ebay ad that the ring was formerly owned by Shana is going to help sell it. That ring has some really bad karma on it. I wouldn’t wear it.
I cannot imagine what kind of attraction that would hold for anyone to wanting to purchase a ring. I wouldn’t take it for free.
I would’ve taken my kid to Disneyland for her birthday; brought a real Birkin handbag the next day and called it a successful weekend. Imagine I would’ve still had money left over.
After what she did to her dead husband, she deserves everything bad that comes after her.
i am with you photomom88. this forum has turned into a bunch of viscous cats. meow. do any of you have any humanity for another human being? its clear there is a lot of envy and jealousy going on here. lately however it sounds like a bunch of petty haters..more than willing to jump at the chance to kick someone when they are down. shame on you. is this what you want to teach your daughters?
mimi, do you think all of the scams this woman has done is ok? all of the lies she has told are ok, the emotional abuse she has heaped on others is ok? i personally don’t think it is ok, she deserves to b e in jail, she deserves far more than jail, she deserves to be stripped of all creature comforts and made to live in a tent in a parking lot eating pork and beans from a can with a diirty plastic spoon while her child lives with someone who is deserving of a child
Lying about Abuse is about the lowest of the Low You bet ill Kick shannafishlipstroutpout while she is down she deserves nothing more the lying scum bucket. WHY in gods name would anyone be jealous of shanna She is a crook,liar and a Thief she is way worse then Chewbacca Guidice My Momma taught me to be a good person, not lie and cheat and not to tolorate those who do. DO you teach your daughters to lie about abuse,cheat ussupecting people and Steal from elderly people do you teach them to tolorate people who are like that.
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Mimi, I neither envy nor hate Shana (Taylor) Armstrong. The trauma her daughter and stepsons have experienced by losing their only father to suicide is incalculable. I feel certain that Shana has suffered greatly, too, but why must she continue to act out (and I really mean ACT OUT) on a reality t.v. show? How about a life of quiet anonymity?
Shana’s multiple instances of lies, scams, physical bullying, verbal meltdowns, and repeated examples of public intoxication have only added to the emotional burden her 6 y.o. daughter must carry. All of these humiliations are in the social media forever, and why I am disgusted by her. It is precisely why I refuse to watch this show until she is phased out.
I wish her peace and a quiet life away from the cameras so that her daughter and she can rebuild their lives, but it appears that she is willing to do ANYTHING to remain in the spotlight–even though it will imperil the emotional well-being of Kennedy Armstrong for years to come.
There has been great concern about Kennedy’s welfare expressed repeatedly on this site. Shana is a college-educated woman who can apply for jobs just like the rest of us. In fact, she probably has abundant connections to land desirable jobs that would provide her and her child with a very decent income. She has chosen to remain controversial by hanging on for dear life to reality television.
Mimi, can you tell me one thing about Shanna that is worthy of any humanity?
NOBODY here is jealous of Shana!
Alexis Bellino carries a ‘borkin’ too. I couldn’t care less about people carrying copies of mass produced bags which have 1000% mark ups, but Hermes bags are made by craftspeople. Support the elderly frenchman who stitches the thing by hand.
mimi, surely you jest. Envy and jealousy of Shana? Hmm, do I envy her ability to lie, misrepresent herself to unsuspecting investors as part of the Ford family, take the life savings of a widow ($10,000) in a phoney investment, con people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, take money off a charity, show no compassion for anyone, push her husband to edge, drink herself into oblivion, just to mention a few of her abilities.
Jealous? Of what? Her hideous lips, over botoxed faced or fake birkin bag?
i’m sorry for you that you have so much pent up anger. but its not attractive to you as a person to wish such hate and dire consequences to someone who is obviously not mentally well. she is a flawed human. “man is basicly flawed” its the human condition.
No she isnt flawed she is a Liar and a thief thats not a FLAWs thats being evil She knew right from wrong and choose the wrong way.
what are we suppose to do throw her a party give her a medal. This is what wrong with our justice sysmtem we coddle the people who commit these crimes and tell them its ok You are “just flawed”
Oh and yes I have commassion for those who deserve it Like those who go to war and come back damaged,missing a limb(s) i feel sorry for those who went to war and didnt come back I have commpassion for the familys forever damaged in this war and the kids who lost parents in it, I have commpassion for the Homeless the single mom who has do choose between food or medicine for the kids In short I have compassion for those who deserve it Shanna doesnt
that would be “basically”
I’m compassionate when I do volunteer work. I’m compassionate when help someone out. When I watch a show w/ women of “privilege” prance around doped up on Xanax, alcohol, Oxycontin, etc. I share my opinion. I’ll save my compassion for some starving child in Columbia. Thank you very much.
mimi, I know about mental illness. And this thing with Shana is beyond mental illness. Its a twisted person steeped in evil that is to be avoided at all costs. Hitler was probably mentally ill too but didn’t mean he was worthy of any manner of graciousness. He was ALSO an evil sum beech. I am not inclined to give anyone a crazy pass mostly because my momma is one of them crazies and she still has capability not to be a rotten no good piece of animal dung with a heart beat from a cold heart. Not all mentally ill people inflict as much pain on people they come in contact with as Shana has. And I do teach my children to avoid people that roam this planet like that hell bent on nothing but destruction. Life is too short and the world is too full of other more deserving of our compassion than the bottomless pit of an empty soul people like Shanna and Casey Anthony. Thems throwaways in my book. sorry.
Well said, MP!!
I should elaborate just a bit and say that my mentally ill mom has the same outlook in life as Mimi and Photomom. So being a child subjected to the fall out that comes with constantly watching her get bit in the butt for her kindness to these unworthy people has taught me to not participate in that folly. My momma cant help it but I can…. for now. In fact, the day I start getting blind to the evil in this world I prolly need to be checked into the looney bin for an extended stay. As of right now I still have the discernment that a healthy grasp on reality has afforded me. Some people are just not that lucky. I do feel bad for them but not the people who prey on them.
MP, you’re talking about a discernment of evil that many people can’t understand. It goes with the PC world of everybody is good, etc. Not realizing that true evil does indeed exist.
Its frustrating but true.
mimi, Shana is way beyond flawed. Many of us have hoped that she could somehow put that little girl first and provide a loving and safe environment for her. That appears to be the least of Shana’s concerns. I dare say, that most of us here have had a greater concern for Kennedy than Shana or her “friends.”
Why does Bravo think viewers want to watch this scammer??? Clearly she has nothing worth watching, and she looks deformed.
Amen 10 times!
If we don’t watch, the ratings will drop. We vote with our eyes.
ok mob. “women of privilege” tick you off “. is that a reason to become a hateful judge of all humanity? as a mob wife..are you qualified to judge?
mobwives aint hateful. I feel compassion for you mimi I bet she does too.
Okay, Mimi, or is it Dana or Shana, go away and crawl back under your rock along side your precious Taylor.
lol. I was fixin to say “Dr SoPhony? dat you?”
Or maybe it’s LLL! She reads SH.
Maybe so Jeanie. And I am sure she tries to justify her gross neglect of her daughter and lack of common sense by cloaking it in a deranged, misguided and downright stoopefying “PC” stance of Traylor is mentally ill. so if I am seen being kind to her then people will forget to rag on me for the way I repeatedly abused my ALSO mentally ill sister. All these women are baked in the head. But Traylor is a dangerous sociopath in my opinion.
I never wrote women of “privilege” tick me off. I don’t judge anyone. Who said I was a mob wife? May I suggest reading comprehension 101.
mimi, you sound very judgemental right now, just saying.
Yikes!
Mimi, how do you think Shana’s book Hiding from Reality, and all subsequent T.V. and public appearances to shill her book, impacted Russell Armstrong’s 2 sons, 1 daughter, parents, and siblings when it came out less than 6 months after his suicide by hanging? In fact, leaving the adults out of it completely, how do you think it was for his 3 minor children going to school with other kids when the subject matter of her book was covered so thoroughly in the media? Where was Shana’s compassion or humanity for her daughter and stepsons then?
I repeat: Shana is NOT doing what is best for her little girl by remaining on this show. They have both been through a horrible trauma, and I’m not sure either of them will ever fully recover from Russell taking his life the way he did. That’s why Shana should tell BravoTV that it’s best to simply exit the show in order to grieve and heal. I think millions of viewers would think far more favorably of her if she made this decision. Kennedy Caroline Armstrong would benefit the most, and that’s the truth.
dear. i think that it’s a stretch to compare taylor with hitler. i think that’s where you get messed up.
yes. hitler was evil. incarnate. his name alone is synoymous with evil. like stalin and mussolini to name a few. if you “know about mental illness” you should be a bit more understanding. seriously.
are you versed in dopamine, serotonin brain chemistry. are you medicaly qualified to “Diagnose”?
or are you feelings purely “emotional”? tthink about how you would react and think if someone you loved was mentaly sick? how is different than being a diabetic. chemistry is something that we are incapable of controling. give a little. you will be happier.
Even Mentally Ill people know right from wrong in most cases so spare me the she sick routine
I know mentally ill people who are smarter than Taylor.
even sociopaths know the difference they just dont care This is Shanna she just dosnt care.
She shows no compassion for his children. That, to me, is the scummiest person.
You’re right! Zero compassion for the boys and for Kennedy, PW. Horrible enough to lose their Dad the way they did, but those kids will always be able to Google the horrible things that were printed and said about him in interviews. It’s all out there—FOREVER. At least Russell’s 2 sons have loving mothers and other family members supporting and comforting them. I hope that Kennedy has some people shoring her up in her life, too.
If she’s so “sick” then give her a lobotomy and stick her away in an asylum away from the rest of humanity.
No there is a idea
Do you see what she has done to Russel’s sons? They have to go through life with people thinking their father was a monster. There are real victims of domestic violence and she is not one of them. I do not feel bad for her at all. Here, let me play my small violin for her…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI
tee hee.
That sounds just like something my bi-polar momma would say. Like I said my momma is mentally ill. She is also one of the best people on the planet. I am “versed” enough to know that this kum-ba-ya crap is a symptom of the mental illness. Waaaaay different than the sociopath antics of people like Shanna, Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, Casey Anthony, and that pervert Sandusky. I feel sorry for her daughter. I hope she comes out ok. And while we are at it I am thinking Kyle might be a bit touched in the head too for having her child around Shanna.
I wonder if Kyle et al (including Andy Cohen) have made attempts to intervene on Kennedy’s behalf? I know we would never read about this in the press, and this subject matter would surely never be covered in an episode, but do you think any of them have stuck their necks out for this little girl? I really hope that someone has.
I, too, hope and pray that Kennedy will be ok. Even with all the attention on bullying behaviors in school, the words kids continue to say to each other in person, on line, in texts, and behind each other’s backs can be so cruel. I know that Russell’s sons were targeted by bullies after his suicide, but particularly after all the things that were in the press surrounding the release of Hiding from Reality. Poor kids.
MiMi (said in a soft tone and respectfully)
Is it possible for you to share your opinions without being so aggressive? We all love different views here and a healthy debate. It’s suppose to be fun not an attack on each other or what they write. Sit back. put up your feet, grab a glass of wine and enjoy your time here. It can be a fun ride.
For what it is worth, MP wasn’t really comparing Taylor to Hitler rather making an
exaggerated point. There are many mentally ill people if not most, that have the ability to choose right from wrong. Simple statement but true.
My precious Cyn. I knew you would have the perfectly diplomatic thing to say about this situation.
It was either that or accuse her of stealing your paddle boat. It was a toss up! LOL
tee hee!
Beautifully stated, OriginalCyn1.
Mimi, when you reflect upon the lives of 3 minor children who all suffered the brutal, crushing, life-altering suicide of their father last August, do you think that Ms. Armstrong has demonstrated concern for them by rolling out her book and repeatedly damning their Dad in multiple press interviews within 6 months of their father’s demise ?
Do you think that she should remain on a reality program that demonstrates her coming apart at the seams?
Do you think that her 6 y.o. daughter could benefit from her quietly stepping away from the glare of scrutiny? Ms. Armstrong can make this choice, you know. She has had a therapeutic relationship with Dr. Sophy for quite some time. (Not my pick for a good shrink in Greater L.A., but presumably he has helped people.) I cannot imagine that Dr. Sophy has failed to suggest to Ms. Armstrong that it would benefit her and her little girl to get off the show. Ms. Armstrong is clearly unstable, and her 6 y.o., who only has her mother as a guardian, is truly at risk. The statistics about the increase in suicides for children who have had a parent commit suicide are alarming. She’s only 6 now, but time moves rapidly. I’m worried about her, and her mother should be, too.
I’ve never seen a Birkin bag and probably won’t in my lifetime, but is it possible that those are real Birkins and the missing paperwork proving their authenticity is simply a ruse by Shana so she can keep them? I imagine there must be other ways to authenticate the real bags apart from the papers.
waves: No. Everything is registered at Hermes… if one has an authentic Birkin, Hermes will have ALL the info. Obviously, Shana did not have the registration info and Hermes had no info on Shana! FAKE!! TFC!! SH
Thanks, Ms. SH.
Isnt there a Waiting list for Birkies I think I saw that on SEX AND THE CITY.
good lord they are so expensive it is astounding that so many people could buy them there would be a waiting list but I’m sure it’s true.
Here’s a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkin_bag
At one point, there was a 6-yr. wait for a Birkin.
lisa: Waiting list is at least two years. TFC!! SH
See I knew Sex and the City was real lol
haha probably more real than any of these stoopid housewives!! or Shana’s purses!
I’ve been posting my concerns about her daughter for ages, but the Bravo website is very censored. I think, since they are helping her fuel her publicity fix (my biggest concern), they’re not willing to go out on a limb and admit they may be contributing to the crazy public throw-down path this woman has chosen for herself and her innocent child. She’s such a media whore, and most of what we are finding out about her – very publicly – is not something anyone (sane) would want their child to know. And she will. She needs to get a real job away from the cameras, join AA and be a real mom. If she can’t, then maybe her little girl would be better off with someone else.