Christine Vienna, long-time friend of Russell Armstrong speaks with Nancy Grace… and says that she did not trust Shana/Traylor.
Nancy Grace seems to be shocked when Christine tells her that Shana/Traylor was passing herself off as a “Ford” Motor Co heiress… but we all at SH have known that for almost a year… here. Note: There is much more re Shana/Traylor on SH…. just search “Shana” on SH and up pops multiple posts about the con artist/scammer Shana/Traylor.
The Real Housewives franchises have become a guilty pleasure for me and I've become intrigued by 'normal' people who would agree to put their lives on television for public display and scrutiny. What are their motives to divulge their daily routines for viewing audiences to approve, reprimand, berate, castigate, attack; basically abuse and judge? Oh, just forget about the above nonsense... the majority of these people are just stoo-pid.
Nancy is really gloriously uninformed about all things Pop culture. The part where she was trying to figure out if that was Taylor scream-whining her head off in the clip they’d just shown was golden too.
I don’t. Taylor is “anonymous source”-ing about five stories a day to TMZ and Radar about Russell. She’s been doing it since about 5 minutes after his body was found. If I knew Russell (and Taylor) I’d been shouting from the rooftops too.
Not one person willing to come forward and say they saw something, mainly. It’s all faceless/nameless people swearing on a stack of Bibles they saw Taylor in various degrees of injury. Why the fear of coming forward? The big bad wolf is dead.
Man, makes perfect sense. What the heck else she gonna do while Kennedy is off at school all day? She’s also the only one that knows all the deets and is a cold hearted snake…
I feel bad for Russell. He just wanted to be a wealthy, quiet man. I do not endorse ponzi schemes, but I think he had more to take care of and needed a way to do it. If I had to feed my kids and my extended family…I don’t know how far I would go if praying didn’t help.
I think he knew this day was coming for a long time and knew too that the roaches would devour him no matter if he were alive or dead. He chose to be dead. And, honestly, I don’t blame him.
He was truly in love with her, and she hated him. She will never have that again.
I feel bad for his children. How do you know Taylor hated him or that he was truly in love with her? Did he text this to you? Are you clairvoyant? You don’t blame him for being a coward, not facing his issues, committing suicide and leaving 3 children fatherless? You don’t blame him? Well, I do.
Well, you are as free to feel the way you want as I am. I agree that his children are to be pitied as is his other family members. I was speaking about the couple. But anyway.
To answer your “gotcha” questioning:
1. It is my belief that a woman that hates her husband will bad mouth him in public and on national TV. I have never seen a loyal, loving wife do that. Ever. I know he loved her. He stayed with her despite all of the things she said about him on national TV. And I have not ever heard him bad mouth her.
2. I am not a clairvoyant. But, I can try to help you find one. I also know some psychiatrists.
3. I don’t make a habit of blaming or bad mouthing the dead. If Taylor had been hanging from an electrical cord, I wouldn’t bad mouth her either. But, she isn’t. He is not here to defend himself from these unproven allegations. When you do find a clairvoyant, you could ask them to grill him and give him all the “what for” you want. Don’t forget to ask him if he thought that everyone would be better off if he were dead, or that he was worth more dead than alive.
And good for you for blaming him for his hanging himself because apparently it affected you personally. I am sorry for your loss.
Dear, I posted no “gotcha” questions. You say you’re NOT a clairvoyant, yet you know she hated him and that he loved her more. You know about as much as I do about their relationship – nothing, but what we viewed on tv. As a matter of fact she acted like a stepford wife on the show. He loved her and his children so much that he committed suicide. I’m not speaking ill of the dead. Reading the garbage that you wrote, I’m gonna need a pychiatrist and a glass of blush wine. And yes, I’m blaming him for his suicide, hid death, as it was HIS decision to make. And I don’t have coward men in my life. Never had to deal with suicide. The men in my life, my husband, father and brothers handle their issues the best way they can – head on. They don’t cop out. Punks do what Russell did. PUNKS!
SH- I made a post asking a queston about a comment about RHBW season finale taping. Where producers mic’d up a waitress to confront a husband she had slept with…. I found the link to where I heard it- the transcript anywhoo. Now this intrigues me!! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/16/ijvm.01.html
This almost sounds like what happen to our son, I have the coroners report and saw the pictures on our son, which he had some bruises on him and his bottom jaw was broke and he was shot under the chin while asleep on his back, Plus he was a healthy young man. The police will not let us see anything that they have about our son, because the wife had it all covered up, with in a few days after it happen. Thank god for the coroner for letting us see everything,
Pius the lead investigator wasn’t around at the time.
Our son had 2 wonderful babies that was left behind and 2 step kids,his wife wanted to be with someone else and he wasn’t going to give her a divorce.
No one was investigated either about anything, they went by a text message on her phone and then it took the police 3 hrs to go inside the house to see if he was dead.
I am so sorry to hear of your loss June and Brian. I hope that one day you will have answers to the questions. His children are blessed to have you in their lives. God bless your family.
Some of you people on here are disgusting. None of us know what truly happened between Russell and Taylor. Everything is speculative. Everyone has put Russell on this pedestal, as if he’s the greatest thing since the internet. The facts are that he committed suicide, leaving 3 children without a father and a crapload of debt. He’s a selfish turd and knew exactly what he was doing and how it would affect those closest to him. While everyone is bashing Taylor, did anyone stop to think about his children? Kennedy, who’s 5 years old, will not have a father in her life because HE took is OWN life. Is that Taylor’s fault? This was Russell’s decision alone. His suicide is not Taylor’s fault. To fault her for RUSSELL committing suicide is ignorant, ridiculous and pathetic. And please, don’t tell me she drove him to this. He’s a grown man who has control of his life.
Cee: Welcome. You are entitled to your opinion. And ALL opinions are valued on SH…
However, NO ONE is faulting Shana/Traylor for Russell’s death. IMPLICATING… yeah, probably, as long-time readers of SH are aware of Shana/Traylor’s scammin’ ways. Perhaps you should become acquainted with Shana/Traylor’s personality… the side of her that had been passing herself off as a “Ford” heiress up to the very second that Season One of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills premiered. Apparently, Shana/Traylor dropped the “Ford” before the premiere as to not be found out for the scammer that she is.
Would greatly appreciate your doing a search on SH… just search for “Shana” and start reading about lil con artist/scammer Shana/Traylor. (You are welcome to search elsewhere, anywhere you prefer… for “Shana Hughes”…)
You might have more of an open mind when it comes to why many are including her as one of the reasons for Russell’s death. TFC!! SH
Thank you for the welcome. To say that no one is faulting Taylor for Russell’s suicide is not true. Implicating – ? Cemantics. I’ve read many posts (on this site) that place full and total blame on Taylor. They both were scam artists. He knew she was a scammer and she knew that he was a scammer. Perfect match. So how does her behavior releate to Russell committing suicide? People need to be responsible for their own actions. And no, I will not “research” the Armstrongs, it’s a waste of time. Whether Taylor represented herself untruthfully has nothing to do with Russell committing suicide. As I’m certain he knew all about her issues while married. He didn’t file for divorce, she did. I do have an open mind. I’m being very objective in my opinion that RUSSELL is responsible for his own death. Period.
Interesting that you say that you’ve “read many posts (on this site)”, yet you feel that doing some independent research so that you can have a grasp on what you are commenting on here is, in your own words “a waste of time!?” Yet, as you say “you have an open mind???” Hardly. In reading your words, there is nothing “objective” at all in your opinion.
Hmmm…. Well, Cee, commenters such as yourself, who constantly contradict themselves in their own comment and are not willing to research the subject on which they are commenting are usually “poofed”… and you are mighty close. Plus, you got another strike against you… you can’t even SPELL!!!
Everyone knows that people who commit suicide are responsible for their deaths. However, a little empathy is in order when judging those people. Anger is one of the natural reactions against the person; so is love and protectiveness from family and friends. Let Russell R.I.P.
Alright! Alright, everyone in their corners. Russell is absolutely responsible for his own suicide. I think whatever comes out about him since his death is all speculation, and at this point I wouldn’t believe anything anyone has to say about it. Like kids playing telephone.
I will reiterate a point I made in another post. I have lived htrough this, and what everyone else saw of my husband was a mask, and it wasn’t real or true. So after the last bruising, he knew everyone would know what he did, and he was scared of the backlash, and his pride took over. Now, his family accused me of driving him to it, and they came up with any excuse to deny what he did. This is part of greiving, denial and blame.
The problem is, his family did me so dirty, that they lost the realtionship with their own grandchildren. I tried, but I felt guilty enough, so I cut them out. That was 15 years ago, and now they dog me and the kids to reconnect, and my kids have no desire even though I have encouraged this.
Russels mother needs to stop throwing all this crap out, and deal with her sons death becuase Shana is just nasty enough to never let his family see Kennady ever again. That is the card she holds now, like it or not.
I don’t like her soul. She is empty and dead inside, always has been, but she does have a rough road, as do his children. I hate how she will play Russels death to her advantage for the rest of her life, and Kennadys.
(bell rings) OK Round 6- let’s go!
Sorry to hear about all you and your children have had to deal with NP. Talk about grinding salt into the wound. Some people will never see the fault(s) in their loved ones…especially in their own children. They will cling to anything to avoid facing the ugly reality.
Totally different, completely shallow topic but do Taylor’s bottom teeth bug anyone else in the top picture? Her teeth lean in towards her tongue. Looks very odd. Surprised with all the work she’s had done she never had them fixed.
I am so sad that people cant let the man rest in peace. God only knows what darkness his life had become. For a person to commit suicide means to me that they have lost all hope. They cannot see past their own pain to understand the serious effect that suicide has on their love ones. We will never know what he was going through. Its not fair to him nor his family to pass judgement on them. I think we should all just move on. Not let bravo make anymore money on this tragedy. Stoopid Housewives seemed to me a great place to vent and make silly remarks and comments about women who live in LaLa land….Just wondering if we can move on to the next stoopid thing our little housewives do on national T.V.
I watched the video, but I wonder what this woman was trying to get at?? The man apparently beat her ass and everyone knew about it. Her sincerity is a non-factor when you’re talking about a woman who’s getting smacked down on a regular by her husband. I don’t feel sorry for him. She may or may not be a scam artist (seems obvious with the name Ford appearing and immediately disappearing from her name). But that doesn’t mean that she deserves to get her face cracked, be physically harmed by a man (her own husband) and that doesn’t make it okay that her husband did those things to the mother of his own child because “he wanted a family”. The girl in this video makes me suspicious.
I love gossip and reading these hilarious posts just as much as the next person. But the woman in this video and the man’s mother are both trying to convince the world that this man was an angel or saint damn near. But he beat his wife’s ass regularly.
People who hurt children, the elderly, the sickly, and women need to be flogged publicly and suffer the same fates they imposed on their victims. I don’t have sympathy for people who do such things, and I cannot resort to blaming the victim.
I don’t think it’s been proven that he beat her regularly. There are alleged incidents. Isolated incidents. Not a pattern of daily smack downs. I’m not saying the guy was a saint but we’re not talking about IkeTurner here.
Let me put it this way, if Casey Anthony hooked up with a man that beat the snot out of her everyday without letting up, I would call that man a saint and give him a medal. Some women DO deserve to get punched in the mouth. Not all “victims” are innocent victims. And karma can me a mofo sum beech and sum times it comes in the form of a back-hand clear across the face.
Now did someone say they wanted to have a 60k dolla party?
Traylor is a lying, manipulative, gold digging, wh*re. All you have to do is watch the first season of the RHOBH to see that for your selves. She only married Russell for the money and admits that. Russell was a good man who was madly in love with his wife and did everything he could and more for that tramp. Once she went through all of his money, she filed for a divorce. She may not have put that electrical cord around his neck but she had plenty to do with his death. She is garbage and I hope Bravo edits her out of the show entirely. I will not be watching if she is on. She is a disgusting person and Russell’s body was not even cold when she began giving false stories to TMZ and Radar about the abuse. Just more lies. I am so happy that Russell’s family and friends and standing up for Russell since he is no longer here to defend himself from all of her lies. What a piece of sh*t she is – total traylor trash!!!
Russell Armstrong and Shana/TraylorTrash…
She asked her if she worked on the line..!
Her hand motion and little “bzzt” “bzzt” noise made me LOL
Nancy is really gloriously uninformed about all things Pop culture. The part where she was trying to figure out if that was Taylor scream-whining her head off in the clip they’d just shown was golden too.
I find it disturbing that this “friend/sister” of 20 years is going on a television show to talk about him. Shouldn’t she be mourning?
Yeah…that’s disturbing. Then I read how Taylor talked to ET the morning after Russells body was discovered.
I don’t. Taylor is “anonymous source”-ing about five stories a day to TMZ and Radar about Russell. She’s been doing it since about 5 minutes after his body was found. If I knew Russell (and Taylor) I’d been shouting from the rooftops too.
Really? You think Traylor is leaking all the deets to the gossip rags? What makes you think that?
Not at all trying to be combative. Just curious!
Not one person willing to come forward and say they saw something, mainly. It’s all faceless/nameless people swearing on a stack of Bibles they saw Taylor in various degrees of injury. Why the fear of coming forward? The big bad wolf is dead.
For their daughter’s sake?
Man, makes perfect sense. What the heck else she gonna do while Kennedy is off at school all day? She’s also the only one that knows all the deets and is a cold hearted snake…
To be honest, I don’t think it’s Taylor. I think it’s one of her close friends.
I feel bad for Russell. He just wanted to be a wealthy, quiet man. I do not endorse ponzi schemes, but I think he had more to take care of and needed a way to do it. If I had to feed my kids and my extended family…I don’t know how far I would go if praying didn’t help.
I think he knew this day was coming for a long time and knew too that the roaches would devour him no matter if he were alive or dead. He chose to be dead. And, honestly, I don’t blame him.
He was truly in love with her, and she hated him. She will never have that again.
I feel bad for his children. How do you know Taylor hated him or that he was truly in love with her? Did he text this to you? Are you clairvoyant? You don’t blame him for being a coward, not facing his issues, committing suicide and leaving 3 children fatherless? You don’t blame him? Well, I do.
Well, you are as free to feel the way you want as I am. I agree that his children are to be pitied as is his other family members. I was speaking about the couple. But anyway.
To answer your “gotcha” questioning:
1. It is my belief that a woman that hates her husband will bad mouth him in public and on national TV. I have never seen a loyal, loving wife do that. Ever. I know he loved her. He stayed with her despite all of the things she said about him on national TV. And I have not ever heard him bad mouth her.
2. I am not a clairvoyant. But, I can try to help you find one. I also know some psychiatrists.
3. I don’t make a habit of blaming or bad mouthing the dead. If Taylor had been hanging from an electrical cord, I wouldn’t bad mouth her either. But, she isn’t. He is not here to defend himself from these unproven allegations. When you do find a clairvoyant, you could ask them to grill him and give him all the “what for” you want. Don’t forget to ask him if he thought that everyone would be better off if he were dead, or that he was worth more dead than alive.
And good for you for blaming him for his hanging himself because apparently it affected you personally. I am sorry for your loss.
Dear, I posted no “gotcha” questions. You say you’re NOT a clairvoyant, yet you know she hated him and that he loved her more. You know about as much as I do about their relationship – nothing, but what we viewed on tv. As a matter of fact she acted like a stepford wife on the show. He loved her and his children so much that he committed suicide. I’m not speaking ill of the dead. Reading the garbage that you wrote, I’m gonna need a pychiatrist and a glass of blush wine. And yes, I’m blaming him for his suicide, hid death, as it was HIS decision to make. And I don’t have coward men in my life. Never had to deal with suicide. The men in my life, my husband, father and brothers handle their issues the best way they can – head on. They don’t cop out. Punks do what Russell did. PUNKS!
Yes you did post ‘gotcha questions.’
Ok I’m shocked that no one’s freaking about the statement that they gave Taylor 2 MILLION dollars for season 2. Dayum that’s just insane if it’s true.
Yes. I wonder how much the other wives got, then.
SH- I made a post asking a queston about a comment about RHBW season finale taping. Where producers mic’d up a waitress to confront a husband she had slept with…. I found the link to where I heard it- the transcript anywhoo. Now this intrigues me!!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/16/ijvm.01.html
ninja: Thank you for your doggedness!! Will be posting soon! TFC!!! SH
This almost sounds like what happen to our son, I have the coroners report and saw the pictures on our son, which he had some bruises on him and his bottom jaw was broke and he was shot under the chin while asleep on his back, Plus he was a healthy young man. The police will not let us see anything that they have about our son, because the wife had it all covered up, with in a few days after it happen. Thank god for the coroner for letting us see everything,
Pius the lead investigator wasn’t around at the time.
Our son had 2 wonderful babies that was left behind and 2 step kids,his wife wanted to be with someone else and he wasn’t going to give her a divorce.
No one was investigated either about anything, they went by a text message on her phone and then it took the police 3 hrs to go inside the house to see if he was dead.
I am so sorry to hear of your loss June and Brian. I hope that one day you will have answers to the questions. His children are blessed to have you in their lives. God bless your family.
June: Welcome. So sorry to hear of your loss… there really are no words. TFC… SH
Some of you people on here are disgusting. None of us know what truly happened between Russell and Taylor. Everything is speculative. Everyone has put Russell on this pedestal, as if he’s the greatest thing since the internet. The facts are that he committed suicide, leaving 3 children without a father and a crapload of debt. He’s a selfish turd and knew exactly what he was doing and how it would affect those closest to him. While everyone is bashing Taylor, did anyone stop to think about his children? Kennedy, who’s 5 years old, will not have a father in her life because HE took is OWN life. Is that Taylor’s fault? This was Russell’s decision alone. His suicide is not Taylor’s fault. To fault her for RUSSELL committing suicide is ignorant, ridiculous and pathetic. And please, don’t tell me she drove him to this. He’s a grown man who has control of his life.
Okay, Cee. Calm down. Step away from sharp objects.
Psht!
Cee: Welcome. You are entitled to your opinion. And ALL opinions are valued on SH…
However, NO ONE is faulting Shana/Traylor for Russell’s death. IMPLICATING… yeah, probably, as long-time readers of SH are aware of Shana/Traylor’s scammin’ ways. Perhaps you should become acquainted with Shana/Traylor’s personality… the side of her that had been passing herself off as a “Ford” heiress up to the very second that Season One of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills premiered. Apparently, Shana/Traylor dropped the “Ford” before the premiere as to not be found out for the scammer that she is.
Would greatly appreciate your doing a search on SH… just search for “Shana” and start reading about lil con artist/scammer Shana/Traylor. (You are welcome to search elsewhere, anywhere you prefer… for “Shana Hughes”…)
You might have more of an open mind when it comes to why many are including her as one of the reasons for Russell’s death. TFC!! SH
Thank you for the welcome. To say that no one is faulting Taylor for Russell’s suicide is not true. Implicating – ? Cemantics. I’ve read many posts (on this site) that place full and total blame on Taylor. They both were scam artists. He knew she was a scammer and she knew that he was a scammer. Perfect match. So how does her behavior releate to Russell committing suicide? People need to be responsible for their own actions. And no, I will not “research” the Armstrongs, it’s a waste of time. Whether Taylor represented herself untruthfully has nothing to do with Russell committing suicide. As I’m certain he knew all about her issues while married. He didn’t file for divorce, she did. I do have an open mind. I’m being very objective in my opinion that RUSSELL is responsible for his own death. Period.
Cee: It’s “semantics”… NOT “Cemantics.”
Interesting that you say that you’ve “read many posts (on this site)”, yet you feel that doing some independent research so that you can have a grasp on what you are commenting on here is, in your own words “a waste of time!?” Yet, as you say “you have an open mind???” Hardly. In reading your words, there is nothing “objective” at all in your opinion.
Hmmm…. Well, Cee, commenters such as yourself, who constantly contradict themselves in their own comment and are not willing to research the subject on which they are commenting are usually “poofed”… and you are mighty close. Plus, you got another strike against you… you can’t even SPELL!!!
Get a dictionary… you illiterate dumbass! SH
Everyone knows that people who commit suicide are responsible for their deaths. However, a little empathy is in order when judging those people. Anger is one of the natural reactions against the person; so is love and protectiveness from family and friends. Let Russell R.I.P.
Alright! Alright, everyone in their corners. Russell is absolutely responsible for his own suicide. I think whatever comes out about him since his death is all speculation, and at this point I wouldn’t believe anything anyone has to say about it. Like kids playing telephone.
I will reiterate a point I made in another post. I have lived htrough this, and what everyone else saw of my husband was a mask, and it wasn’t real or true. So after the last bruising, he knew everyone would know what he did, and he was scared of the backlash, and his pride took over. Now, his family accused me of driving him to it, and they came up with any excuse to deny what he did. This is part of greiving, denial and blame.
The problem is, his family did me so dirty, that they lost the realtionship with their own grandchildren. I tried, but I felt guilty enough, so I cut them out. That was 15 years ago, and now they dog me and the kids to reconnect, and my kids have no desire even though I have encouraged this.
Russels mother needs to stop throwing all this crap out, and deal with her sons death becuase Shana is just nasty enough to never let his family see Kennady ever again. That is the card she holds now, like it or not.
I don’t like her soul. She is empty and dead inside, always has been, but she does have a rough road, as do his children. I hate how she will play Russels death to her advantage for the rest of her life, and Kennadys.
(bell rings) OK Round 6- let’s go!
Sorry to hear about all you and your children have had to deal with NP. Talk about grinding salt into the wound. Some people will never see the fault(s) in their loved ones…especially in their own children. They will cling to anything to avoid facing the ugly reality.
Totally different, completely shallow topic but do Taylor’s bottom teeth bug anyone else in the top picture? Her teeth lean in towards her tongue. Looks very odd. Surprised with all the work she’s had done she never had them fixed.
I am so sad that people cant let the man rest in peace. God only knows what darkness his life had become. For a person to commit suicide means to me that they have lost all hope. They cannot see past their own pain to understand the serious effect that suicide has on their love ones. We will never know what he was going through. Its not fair to him nor his family to pass judgement on them. I think we should all just move on. Not let bravo make anymore money on this tragedy. Stoopid Housewives seemed to me a great place to vent and make silly remarks and comments about women who live in LaLa land….Just wondering if we can move on to the next stoopid thing our little housewives do on national T.V.
I watched the video, but I wonder what this woman was trying to get at?? The man apparently beat her ass and everyone knew about it. Her sincerity is a non-factor when you’re talking about a woman who’s getting smacked down on a regular by her husband. I don’t feel sorry for him. She may or may not be a scam artist (seems obvious with the name Ford appearing and immediately disappearing from her name). But that doesn’t mean that she deserves to get her face cracked, be physically harmed by a man (her own husband) and that doesn’t make it okay that her husband did those things to the mother of his own child because “he wanted a family”. The girl in this video makes me suspicious.
I love gossip and reading these hilarious posts just as much as the next person. But the woman in this video and the man’s mother are both trying to convince the world that this man was an angel or saint damn near. But he beat his wife’s ass regularly.
People who hurt children, the elderly, the sickly, and women need to be flogged publicly and suffer the same fates they imposed on their victims. I don’t have sympathy for people who do such things, and I cannot resort to blaming the victim.
I don’t think it’s been proven that he beat her regularly. There are alleged incidents. Isolated incidents. Not a pattern of daily smack downs. I’m not saying the guy was a saint but we’re not talking about IkeTurner here.
Let me put it this way, if Casey Anthony hooked up with a man that beat the snot out of her everyday without letting up, I would call that man a saint and give him a medal. Some women DO deserve to get punched in the mouth. Not all “victims” are innocent victims. And karma can me a mofo sum beech and sum times it comes in the form of a back-hand clear across the face.
Now did someone say they wanted to have a 60k dolla party?
Traylor is a lying, manipulative, gold digging, wh*re. All you have to do is watch the first season of the RHOBH to see that for your selves. She only married Russell for the money and admits that. Russell was a good man who was madly in love with his wife and did everything he could and more for that tramp. Once she went through all of his money, she filed for a divorce. She may not have put that electrical cord around his neck but she had plenty to do with his death. She is garbage and I hope Bravo edits her out of the show entirely. I will not be watching if she is on. She is a disgusting person and Russell’s body was not even cold when she began giving false stories to TMZ and Radar about the abuse. Just more lies. I am so happy that Russell’s family and friends and standing up for Russell since he is no longer here to defend himself from all of her lies. What a piece of sh*t she is – total traylor trash!!!